[Balance Issue] Mission: A Grand Idea

[maestro]

This quest appears to be impossible to complete under certain conditions.

It requires you to make 5 Gift Boxes, which requires 25 Paper combined.

It takes the drying rack 1h30m to make 1 paper, which means you need a minimum of 37.5 hours to get enough paper to finish the 5 boxes.

The mission says it has no time limit, however, it will auto-fail the day after you finish the mission, "First Impressions".

Scenario:

1). Get First Impressions.
2). Have enough materials to finish it the same day you got it and "A Grand Idea"
3). Have no paper (because very few items require it)
4). Finish the mission "First Impressions" on the first day.

This makes it 100% impossible to complete "A Grand Idea" and to be honest, 25 paper seems like way too much to ask for.

How about 2 paper per gift box? That would make it 10 paper total which while still a little tight, would still be do-able.

EDIT: This is all assuming you have 1 drying rack and given how there aren't a huge amount of recipes made from it, why would you have 2 of them just for this mission?

EDIT: Another possible solution, is to delay Musa's arrival by 1 additional day to avoid this issue altogether, giving you 48h to complete the mission if you hand in First Impressions on the first day.

[zjjcaa]

I agree, just encounter this issue exactly as described above. Finish the first impression in day 1 and didn't realise there is a time limit for this side quest. Don't have any paper so couldn't finish it on time.

[SBG_Lucina]

Hello, I recently bought the game and have been playing for about 3-ish weeks(irl) and then I got to this questline and the same thing happened for me as well. But I found a way to complete both quests so hopefully this is helpful in case of a future replay of the game/quests:

1. I got the quest for First Impressions and built both of the required builds
2. This part is important, do NOT install the two builds yet as that is what triggers A Grand Idea to fail the next morning(I tested it out with different save slots)
3. I had the paper drying on two racks at around 14:00 in game by accident but if you sleep through the next day all the paper needed will be done and you will not fail the quest therefore allowing you to give Arvio all 5 items

I guess TL;DR: Do NOT complete First Impressions before A Grand Idea as completing the former automatically fails the Builder for A Grand Idea and have your paper on two drying racks if possible

[maestro]

I guess TL;DR: Do NOT complete First Impressions before A Grand Idea as completing the former automatically fails the Builder for A Grand Idea and have your paper on two drying racks if possible

The whole point of the thread is that you need to be a fortune teller/diviner to know that turning in the one quest will auto-fail the other quest because it's simply impossible for most people to complete the quest in one day due to the 25 paper being required.

And you likely won't know about your error until you've gone to sleep, wake up the next day and the quest automatically fails, IE, you've already saved your game and it's too late now.

OBVIOUSLY, you could just not complete the other quest, but again, that requires you to be a psychic and/or read up on quest lines ahead of time. Not everybody wants to spoil themselves looking for GoneForevers to avoid.