Logan Kidnap Matilda Quest

[tashysarah]

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Somebody may have already discussed this but i'm in the cave with Zeke fighting Logan for Matilda's release but how the heck do i defeat him?! Three of us don't even make a dent in his health.

[JVC]

Iron weapons and you might want to have a few health items on hand as well.

You can beat him. You don't have to fight him till the meter is at zero. The battle ends before that.

[tashysarah]

Originally posted by JVC:

Iron weapons and you might want to have a few health items on hand as well.

You can beat him. You don't have to fight him till the meter is at zero. The battle ends before that.

Thank you!

[james64468]

Try to be level 30 as well. That help me a lot.

[tinytiasenpai]

Anyone know what happens if you chase Logan instead of saving Matilda? I couldnt figure out how to pick lol

[rinofwater]

Originally posted by tinytiasenpai:

Anyone know what happens if you chase Logan instead of saving Matilda? I couldnt figure out how to pick lol

You pick based on whether you take the quick-time prompt or not (taking the prompt saves Matilda, ignoring it has you chase after Logan)

Basically you chase Logan for a few seconds and then Haru sets off explosives to cause a cave-in between you and the Civil Corp boys, and him and Logan

[Dalton]

You got it! Maybe get a few more levels and try again.

[bkerns2]

I'm surprised losing all of your health is a gameover instead of progressing to the cutscene, since the start of the cutscene presents you as having lost the fight. Also it is really jarring to go from winning the combat to that cutscene that shows you having lost, without any explanation of how you lost suddenly. Reminds me of how I hated the final fight in Portia, where I went from easily winning to a cutscene of getting my butt kicked. Especially since the fight was made meaningless via deus ex Django.

[RoseLady]

I am 2 real calendar days into attempting to defeat Logan after he kidnaps Mathilda. Pen never shows up. I die continually. Not sure where I'm going wrong. Level 30, had chromium sword & shield, returned to using iron, no luck. Brought gun and ammo, can't defeat Logan. Can't progress in game.

[TaylerBootz]

Originally posted by bkerns2:

I'm surprised losing all of your health is a gameover instead of progressing to the cutscene, since the start of the cutscene presents you as having lost the fight. Also it is really jarring to go from winning the combat to that cutscene that shows you having lost, without any explanation of how you lost suddenly. Reminds me of how I hated the final fight in Portia, where I went from easily winning to a cutscene of getting my butt kicked. Especially since the fight was made meaningless via deus ex Django.

I never had to repeat too many fights (learning a certain space faring persons fight was difficult, but the tells each character shows become obvious.)

I, too, was bummed, every time I, ME, THE AWESOME BUILDER/FIGHTER would kick butt and the cutscenes (multiple) show me on the floor. At least most people recognize how awesome I am.
I got tired of Sam telling me about her not wanting to be saving my butt in the ruins AFTER I saved her, Arlo and Mint. (At least Arlo and Mint thank you for it.) It's at least nice they added some proper acknowledgement this time around, even if it's through personal dialog.

[House Gnome]

Originally posted by TaylerBootz:

I, too, was bummed, every time I, ME, THE AWESOME BUILDER/FIGHTER would kick butt and the cutscenes (multiple) show me on the floor. At least most people recognize how awesome I am.

Right?! Every Logan fight last play through I was kicking his butt with no regard to his name and then cutscene to either me losing or it being a draw. Even though I married him later (and will again this time), I took my pound of flesh by constantly humiliating him in the sparring ring. Nothing more satisfying then turning that lovely gun-slinging lunatic laugh into him on his knees pounding the ring floor in frustration - cue my lunatic laugh.

[Witosław]

Originally posted by bkerns2:

I'm surprised losing all of your health is a gameover instead of progressing to the cutscene, since the start of the cutscene presents you as having lost the fight. Also it is really jarring to go from winning the combat to that cutscene that shows you having lost, without any explanation of how you lost suddenly. Reminds me of how I hated the final fight in Portia, where I went from easily winning to a cutscene of getting my butt kicked. Especially since the fight was made meaningless via deus ex Django.

This is evidence that the creators are lazy.
Instead of showing both cutscenes, we get one negative one, which also lies.
I will also say that I don't like this whole situation either.
The developers can still fix this and they are:

option A, three cutscenes: one is when the player actually loses to Logan and we get the original cutscene. The second one is Logan is still fighting the lawmen, but at that time Pen arrives and gives the final blow to Logan and then you know what. And the third optional one is that it is the lawmen who give the final blow to Logan.
It is an interesting, but expensive idea to implement

Option B Logan is very powerful: it means that he scales and is 10 levels higher than the player's team and instead of the "GAME OVER" screen we get the original cutscene.
In my opinion, this is the most interesting option because it is the cheapest to implement.

It would be even better if you combined both options.

[RoseLady]

I wouldn't mind losing the fight if I could progress, but I die, GAME OVER, and need to reload my last save. It's a no win, no progress scenario. I'm considering reloading the one save file and NOT go save Mathilda and go back to mucking around town but this is a required mission.

[Sketch Elder]

Just because it's a required mission, doesn't mean you have to do it right away. Take some time, if you need it, to gain more levels, get better armor and weapons, and stock up on health supplies.

[Witosław]

Originally posted by Sketch Elder:

Just because it's a required mission, doesn't mean you have to do it right away. Take some time, if you need it, to gain more levels, get better armor and weapons, and stock up on health supplies.

Originally posted by RoseLady:

I wouldn't mind losing the fight if I could progress, but I die, GAME OVER, and need to reload my last save. It's a no win, no progress scenario. I'm considering reloading the one save file and NOT go save Mathilda and go back to mucking around town but this is a required mission.

sketch Elder

And you're right!

Because I'm the type of player who likes to spend as much time as possible with this game. The more you do activities (especially when you are in the mine), the higher your level becomes, and the easier the game becomes.

RoseLady

You are a player who wants to get through the game as quickly as possible, avoiding activities, and this means that the game becomes more and more difficult.
And here's some advice, relax, it's not a timed mission. you can make commissions (overtake Yan by the way), you can complete side missions, you can also go to the mine to collect resources.

[House Gnome]

Also, make sure you are refining your gear up to purple level. You can keep refining for higher stats and bonus effects, be sure some of your gear has a damage reflect stat, at least 80% or better should be obtainable by that point.