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Hard copy on that.
DWD
Excluding the romance from the My Time games would be a big flop for the series, causing a lot of disinterest for the majority of players, because the romance has always been the dominating feature to the audience, as far as appealing goes; I see more people posting screenshots of the relationships they have with the npcs, and the journey they go on in the story, to bond with them, than the actual building and action - as well as the amount of people saying who they can't wait to romance, for the next sequel, My Time At Evershine. That says it all. The romance just adds a special kind of immersion and excitement to the game that building and action alone cannot achieve for the series. Being able to make that special connection and have a new life together with the npcs, whether it's friendships, or that one special relationship, just leaves a wholesome lasting impression on people, and these games would just be a shadow of their former selves without it, feeling more like the tedious sandbox mode in the multiplayer version of this game. The romance is important to break that tedium, and keep things fresh!
But that is why the romance being optional, the choice to engage in it or not, is implemented in these games, so everyone can play the game their way according to their preference, romance or not. Catering to both kinds of audiences is essential in games.
P.S. But I like those ideas about Duvos, hope there will be a My Time At Duvos one day!
I, for one, find the romance aspect "meh", but I do like friendships and such.
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At the end of the day, the developers will look at how many sales they got for the romance DLC, etc and project that way. It would be nice to see what percentage of players bought the DLC compared to the main game. However, the way the series is going and let's face it the Kick starter has literally given goals based on the ability to choose romance characters, I think it is safe to say that romance is the path they are going to follow.
It's a shame and I think they will lose a good percentage of players by doing that. I for one won't be buying into the next chapter as it looks as though what I played the first two games for isn't going to be the same.
That in itself is an oxymoron. You are suggesting that removing romance is at a detriment to people who love THAT SIDE of the game more than the building side. However, including more romance than the building side is at a detriment to the players that love that side of the game.
I hope that you can see that and that you have actually pointed out the biggest flaw in the games direction. They have decided to exclude the building side over the romance side and therefore there are players who are going to suffer and leave the series. Why not keep the balance the way it is and enjoy the cash from both sets of players?
Let that sink in
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I see your point as well. I've stayed "just friends" with people in Sandrock and have enjoyed the game. I romanced and married Fang because it was a challenge, but I dumped him because, frankly, he was boring.
I just don't want a game where romance and marriage are necessary if you want to advance.
My, "hard copy" reply upthread was in jest. I meant no offence.
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You said 'Why not keep the balance the way it is?' They have.....the devs have listened to the feedback of people who complained that there was too much of it in Sandrock, and from that, they have equalized it with the building in My Time At Evershine, for the people who don't prefer the romance as much, or at all.
The devs have addressed this issue in My Time At Evershine, by giving a smaller amount of romanceable characters, so is there really any more point in complaining about it any further? I've seen many of your comments in general, Chrisbamb, and it seems all you do is post and start combative comments like this for the sake of causing discord in threads. I'm gonna be signing out of this discussion now, because you somehow continue to complain about something that isn't even an issue, because, for the last time, the romance is optional. No matter how many romanceable characters are in the game at a time, the game only becomes romantic if you allow it to.
P.S. And my gripe isn't with you, DuWakaDu, or your hard copy comment, it's addressed at Chrisbamb, who posted very inconsiderate and unsound comments/arguments. This user has a history of causing discord in steam threads, so nothing new to see here. Nothing wrong with not preferring romance, because everyone is entitled to their preference, but requesting the devs to exclude it entirely from the base game for future sequels, shows total disregard for the people who do enjoy it. There's a fine line between one expressing their opinion, and forcing it on others by suggesting that content so many enjoy be excluded from the base game. I felt I needed to address their comment stating that the romance has replaced the building aspect, because that presents the My Time games in a false light, giving off the impression that you can't play/progress in these games without romance.
Which is not true, you can; the romance being optional gives you the choice to determine what kind of game it will be for you, romantic or not, which will be the case in Evershine, contrary to what Chrisbamb said; the devs have never forced romance on anyone as a requirement to play or progress in either Portia or Sandrock, and I highly doubt they will start now, so I would recommend giving Evershine a try when it comes out! I think you pretty much summed it up with what you said in your comment, that you stayed just friends with the npcs, and were still able to enjoy the game :) If you were able to enjoy the game your way without the romance, then Chrisbamb is perfectly capable of doing the same, so has no excuse to complain about the romance affecting the building gameplay. Romance is a theme alongside building in this game, yes, but an optional theme :)
Maybe we should just close this pointless argument up here, and instead focus on the topic of Flo's thread about Duvos. Good Duvos ideas there, what do you guys think? :)
I'll drink to that.
Duvos. Lots of possibilities. Authoritarian government, and you're a screw-up who keeps running afoul of the not-very-well-understood laws. You start out in jail, but you're offered conditional clemency if you agree to build stuff. No matter that it's dangerous and you're unqualified, just build it. You work your way up (and grease the necessary palms, maybe romance the right people (romance suddenly becomes central to your advancement)) until you can get a real license, but you're still basically a slave to the Duvos government, so you get dragged off on missions and wind up fighting monsters and bosses. As your rep goes up, you get a little more freedom and maybe can enter the military. After the raid on Sandrock, you have the option of (as suggested upthread) defecting or running away, setting up shop in a new town.
Which could be the intro to a new game. You're a Duvos refuge with skills and a builder's license. There's a little prejudice from the Free City people, but "Here, you can have this abandoned workshop. Have at it. Prove yourself."
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Wow, what a scathing, unwarranted attack. Just because I post I don't like the romanceable side of the game means I can't have an opinion and therefore I leave attacking and combative posts? I could say the same about everyone who constantly posts positive, wanting more romance posts, but I don't. I simply offer my opinion has to why more romance isn't necessarily a good thing for all people who play the game.
I merely replied to your opinion about removing romance being at a detriment to people like yourself who prefer that side of the game. At no point did I attack you, yet you have blatantly attacked me in such a way that is slanderous and defaming. Just because I have an opposing view to people doesn't mean I am being argumentative, it means I have a different opinion.
I respect people who like the romance side and have even stated myself, in the post you obviously didn't read, that I don't mind a BIT of romance.
Next time please respect that others do not share the same opinion as you and are not being argumentative, they just differ from you.
How about "My time at Mobius" or "My time at Baja"?
both cities are located in the Duvos area
You should read this yourself. Multiple times.