Mi-an getting pushed into obscurity

[Pete Concrete]

I think it's strange and somewhat funny how Mi-an, after a certain early point in the story, almost completely disappears. She is the first person you meet in the game and she's a big part of the early storyline. We can see that she is a vital part of Sandrock's recovery project. And then she's hardly in any story quests and not in any side quests either. (I'm about 80 hours into the game)

It's as if the devs read the lukewarm to negative reactions to her character in the early access phase and decided to write her out as much as possible for the latter part of the story.

I don't have a big problem with it, but I do like her positive can-do attitude. They did my girl Mi-an dirty, ya'll.

[Pete Concrete]

Origineel geplaatst door Shaidon:

I like Mi-an, she is always there, so I find hard to think that she is being obscured. Especially that she will occasionally wander inside my lot and house, talk about taking care of my baby, and calling me darling, despite that my wife is Amirah... >.>

that sounds like an interesting open relationship kind of situation. glad to see the devs have the balls for that too :D

[TaylerBootz]

I will be honest, I liked having a builder that wasn't my rival this time (I never counted Yan to be anywhere close to Higgins). However after 2 playthroughs, I actually find I hate Mi-an. No real reason, I just don't like her.

She wants to be involved in solving mysteries, yet in my second run, I looked for her after the "bounty hunter" investigation because she said she wanted to be involved next time. She had nothing to say. Just ran around the desert doing whatever she does.

I mean... She is pretty pitiful. I guess they wanted you as the character player to be the real hero (despite every time I kick someone's butt by myself, the cut-scene shows me on the ground or something).

[Meevers]

I kind of like it. She starts out confident about being the best to the point of sometimes coming across a little arrogant, and she's really upbeat. But, ofc, as you start to become much better than her she gets overshadowed by you, and it feels like her confidence really takes a huge hit because of it. Everyone is coming to you with things, not her, because you've become the much better and more notorious builder. To me it feels like she takes a step back for herself tbh, and tries to focus more on different things that she enjoys rather than 100% building all the time. Which tbh... I think I would too, it'd suck being overshadowed as much as she is in this game lmao

[Endora]

It's not easy to be the shadow of a hero, and on top of that to be hardly bullied by her boss. I understand that. But the whole time I was expecting a growth arc for her, where she would learn to stick for herself and put Yan on his place as the worm he is. But allas, she never stoped to be weak. Sad.

[House Gnome]

Origineel geplaatst door Meevers:

To me it feels like she takes a step back for herself tbh, and tries to focus more on different things that she enjoys rather than 100% building all the time. Which tbh... I think I would too, it'd suck being overshadowed as much as she is in this game lmao

Truth. I am sitting at over 12K workshop points for the year and it's mid-Autumn, and I literally slept a bunch of days away waiting for something to happen, while Mi-an is at 2k and in 2nd place for the year. I barely take any commissions at all unless they are mission related, I want to build out my property, or I want to level some relationship points with someone - and I'm steamrolling everyone.

[Zeesha]

Origineel geplaatst door Endora:

It's not easy to be the shadow of a hero, and on top of that to be hardly bullied by her boss. I understand that. But the whole time I was expecting a growth arc for her, where she would learn to stick for herself and put Yan on his place as the worm he is. But allas, she never stoped to be weak. Sad.

I was hoping for that as well.. or at least she and our char could 1 -2 Death Match Yan. That would of been Boss! Come on people, you know it would of been a great option... okay, maybe I'm the only one.

But no, anything along those character lines doesn't happen. "Tutorial girl," as she was sometimes tagged, becomes heavily under-written.

[Shift]

Origineel geplaatst door Zeesha:

Origineel geplaatst door Endora:

It's not easy to be the shadow of a hero, and on top of that to be hardly bullied by her boss. I understand that. But the whole time I was expecting a growth arc for her, where she would learn to stick for herself and put Yan on his place as the worm he is. But allas, she never stoped to be weak. Sad.

I was hoping for that as well.. or at least she and our char could 1 -2 Death Match Yan. That would of been Boss! Come on people, you know it would of been a great option... okay, maybe I'm the only one.

But no, anything along those character lines doesn't happen. "Tutorial girl," as she was sometimes tagged, becomes heavily under-written.

It's quite funny. When I left the game in EA she was the face of the game. When I came back, she managed to get close to the likes of Venti in relevance.

I just hope this wasn't kickstarted by all the cries about her being the player's voice - not much her fault, just a drawback of having a silent protagonist on a game where every other NPC is voiced.

[pcdeltalink]

Origineel geplaatst door Ihateeverybody:

This whole situation still burns my britches. I will never forgive the Mi-an Haters. They are dead to me.

I never understood the hate. Player's voice or not I was always just like "Do you people somehow like or want a Higgins type character again?" He was awful and the worst part about Portia for me. At least Mi-an I liked her energy, attitude, etc.

[Ziggyshack]

I liked her from the get-go, married her and had two kids. I remember a small section where she wasn't around as much due to story but it wasn't like she disappeared. I also didn't mind her being the player's voice, as my one big criticism of Portia was my character's voice - I could not stand it.

[Endora]

Origineel geplaatst door Ziggyshack:

I liked her from the get-go, married her and had two kids. I remember a small section where she wasn't around as much due to story but it wasn't like she disappeared. I also didn't mind her being the player's voice, as my one big criticism of Portia was my character's voice - I could not stand it.

Yeah, me too. I even choose not voices in Portia, and would do that here. With silent protagonist I can perfectly imagine the voice, thank you so much.

And I liked Mi-An, not as a mate, but as a very good best friend. Tha't why I wanted so hard that she overcome her depressive period.

[I'm scared of Toasters]

Origineel geplaatst door pcdeltalink:

Origineel geplaatst door Ihateeverybody:

This whole situation still burns my britches. I will never forgive the Mi-an Haters. They are dead to me.

I never understood the hate. Player's voice or not I was always just like "Do you people somehow like or want a Higgins type character again?" He was awful and the worst part about Portia for me. At least Mi-an I liked her energy, attitude, etc.

I actually prefer Higgins to her. So I guess yes, people do like and enjoy different things.

Origineel geplaatst door Ziggyshack:

I also didn't mind her being the player's voice, as my one big criticism of Portia was my character's voice - I could not stand it.

Exact opposite for me personally. I liked having a protagonist with a voice for once.

[Ziggyshack]

Origineel geplaatst door I'm scared of toasters:

I actually prefer Higgins to her. So I guess yes, people do like and enjoy different things.

I found Higgins annoying and wasn't looking forward to having him as my personal "nemesis," but eventually found a way to fix it. Every time I saw him, I imagined my character bellowing "**** you, Higgins!" and I couldn't help but laugh. It did feel kind of awkward when he sort of becomes nice to you.

[Endora]

I just ignored him most of my runs, except the one where to marry Ginger I needed to be the first place at the guild. I like to play this kind of game at my own pace, so I wouldn't let Higgins's emotional problems to get in my way.
With Yan, however, I made a point to never let him to get the first place and only the first month was a bit tricky.
Sadly or not, Mi-An was never a competitor because all that Yan did.

[I Throw Spears.]

Good. Mi-an is terribly dull.

[TaylerBootz]

Origineel geplaatst door Ziggyshack:

Origineel geplaatst door I'm scared of toasters:

I actually prefer Higgins to her. So I guess yes, people do like and enjoy different things.

I found Higgins annoying and wasn't looking forward to having him as my personal "nemesis," but eventually found a way to fix it. Every time I saw him, I imagined my character bellowing "**** you, Higgins!" and I couldn't help but laugh. It did feel kind of awkward when he sort of becomes nice to you.

I loved beating Higgin's to the commission boards and holding the best commission open so he couldn't take it. Then I'd steal his stuff. I also sparred with him a lot. It was kinda cool that they added some more so you could stop being huge rivals. Nearly everyone asked for it and the devs were like, ok, cool. It just made you realize what a sad person he was, but he was slightly redeemable. Yan isn't redeemable and Mi-an is just a doormat. One of the best scenes in Sandrock is when you can fumble the keys forever while Yan tries to get you to let him out of jail. Makes me laugh every time.