Rare items

[GalaxyGaming]

How do I make Rare items at my worktables or how do i make rare items in general thanks

[Cutlass Jack]

There's a crafting station called a 'refiner' that will let you increase the quality of any item you make. You'll need to research/make one of those.

[GalaxyGaming]

thanks

[Lord_Reavous]

Yeah the Refiner is a guaranteed rarity increase at a cost of materials, but you can also create Perfect and Rarer stuff through perks. When you make new crafting stations they can have rarer quality then as well and it all cascades so that you produce few Outstanding quality items by late game. (I think most crafting stations can be Purple except for the Refiner which is always Outstanding/Green).

[Leito]

Does quality matter on rafiner? Or it does not matter if its PERFECT or RARE?

[ƎϽ∀ƎԀ]

Publicado originalmente por Leito:

Does quality matter on rafiner? Or it does not matter if its PERFECT or RARE?

Quality does not matter. Repeatedly refine a RARE item get the right stats you want. Each time you refine you get different stats. (although RNG, sometimes you get the same as what you already have on it)

[Sketch Elder]

The quality of the Refiner doesn't matter. Unlike the other machines, there is no benefit, as far as I know, to making one that's higher quality.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Publicado originalmente por Sketch Elder:

The quality of the Refiner doesn't matter. Unlike the other machines, there is no benefit, as far as I know, to making one that's higher quality.

Can you even refine a Refiner? I thought I remembered someone tried and the option wasn't there.

[Sketch Elder]

No, you can't refine a refiner but you can refine the materials you use to make it. In theory, higher quality materials should give you a higher quality machine.

(I'm one of the people who tried to refine the refiner but I don't think I've ever mentioned it here before.)

[House Gnome]

Publicado originalmente por Sketch Elder:

In theory, higher quality materials should give you a higher quality machine.

I've personally found it to be cheaper and less hassle to just refine the final item rather than bother with high quality mats. Accidentally mixing mat quality, accidentally turning in your higher quality mat for a materials commission, taking up extra storage space with different quality items, stuff like that just make it more of a headache to do than making an outstanding level X and then farming 3-5 of whatever item it is I need to upgrade it.

[syzara]

Publicado originalmente por Sketch Elder:

No, you can't refine a refiner but you can refine the materials you use to make it. In theory, higher quality materials should give you a higher quality machine.

(I'm one of the people who tried to refine the refiner but I don't think I've ever mentioned it here before.)

I get the blue perfect machine bc I like not having 'normal quality' ones but it has absolutely zero effect on use, indeed.

I also tried to refine a refiner once, bc I had a commission for making one anyway ;) I am now curious if I could make a rare one with rare base components. For science.

[House Gnome]

Publicado originalmente por syzara:

I also tried to refine a refiner once, bc I had a commission for making one anyway ;) I am now curious if I could make a rare one with rare base components. For science.

The wiki doesn't show any quality levels for the refiner. I suspect it can't be refined up because it is a non-bonus providing item that is a single item instant craft. Typically refining an item increases the bonus it gives, makes it faster, allows it to handle more items at one time, cuts fuel/water usage.

Refiner uses no fuel or water, takes no time, is limited to one item at a time, gives no stats and it's the base item being refined that determines what/how many mats are needed to refine it (re-reolling a rare takes the least amount of a mat, upgrading from blue to purple typically requires fewer mats than green to blue). Hence, no reason for refiner to be, well, refine-able.

In fact, all refiner perks are skill-tree based, not equipment based, meaning the builder is the refiner being refined. It's refine-ception.