Dew Collectors are useless....

[Blackstone30]

Why is actually the Dew Collector so useless in my eyes....It doesnt matter if its green, blue or purple....you always get just 3 dew every day. And you even get more dew when you run around and gather ressources. And i am not gonna place 10 or more dew collectors on my ground just to get 30 dew...which are like 3 Water.....

[KainSvendir]

Bobucles původně napsal:

It's a bit surprising that the builder uses outdoor farming in a climate where water is so precious. A greenhouse makes tons of sense in Sandrock, both to protect fragile crops against dust storms and to preserve water. Even the city farm is a greenhouse.

It would totaly make sense for us to build at least one later

[Dex]

Bobucles původně napsal:

It's a bit surprising that the builder uses outdoor farming in a climate where water is so precious. A greenhouse makes tons of sense in Sandrock, both to protect fragile crops against dust storms and to preserve water. Even the city farm is a greenhouse.

One of the NPCs even mentions "why do you put all your machines outside?" and I thought.."yea, that's a good question."

[Xanthris]

I hope that we'll get a greenhouse (to keep wasting water low), a factory (better insulation for machines, also keeping the sand out) and better ways of collecting water (like tapping groundwater, which is the best way to get water in deserts).

Hopefully the current inefficiencies are only the result of the limited content we get in EA.

[Bobucles]

Boblawblah původně napsal:

One of the NPCs even mentions "why do you put all your machines outside?" and I thought.."yea, that's a good question."

Outdoor machines make sense when a furnace is burning dregs for fuel. That's a lot of gross smog and junk in the air and it'd take some powerful vents to keep the indoors clean. Industry is also very hot and that can be trouble in a closed box in the desert sun.

I mean, getting a bunch of sand in all your stuff isn't that good either. Getting a safe clean indoors work area would make sense for the tier progression, especially for dealing with higher rarity items.

[Odium]

the idea of needing water plus fuel is kind of silly. None of those machines require water. I understand needing that water tank for gardening and for self sustaining. But while im enjoying the game a bit I cant overstate enough how straight up stupid of a mechanic it is that our machines need water.

[Explicitly Offensive Cuneiform]

you want 5. 5 dew collectors is one water a day. that's a lot. they are also somewhat cheap to make. the only downside is the space that they take up.

Sandrock is a desert, and water is life. conserve water. Do it for Shai-Hulud.

Tyrael původně napsal:

the idea of needing water plus fuel is kind of silly. None of those machines require water. I understand needing that water tank for gardening and for self sustaining. But while im enjoying the game a bit I cant overstate enough how straight up stupid of a mechanic it is that our machines need water.

Yeah, its for "overheating" but how is that an issue for the civil forge? The dust mechanic makes sense, and i can understand more complex machines overheating, but it does strike me as a little weird. Now if there was a thirst mechanic, one where you need to drink water to have full stamina each day, that makes more sense and is more realistic.

[The Yeen Queen]

Tyrael původně napsal:

the idea of needing water plus fuel is kind of silly. None of those machines require water. I understand needing that water tank for gardening and for self sustaining. But while im enjoying the game a bit I cant overstate enough how straight up stupid of a mechanic it is that our machines need water.

The water is to prevent the machines from overheating. Because burning fuel+desert sun=a LOT of heat.

[Dex]

Explicitly Offensive Cuneiform původně napsal:

you want 5. 5 dew collectors is one water a day. that's a lot. they are also somewhat cheap to make. the only downside is the space that they take up.

Sandrock is a desert, and water is life. conserve water. Do it for Shai-Hulud.

one water a day is not remotely a lot when you can buy 5 a day for 50 gol

[Blackstone30]

A greenhouse is actually quite a nice idea...would be also cool with upgrades for a water tank and sprinklers. But then again there could be a problem with room on your property especially when you wanna keep animals too. Personally i think the biggest expansion for 20000 Gols is still to small if you even wanna build a Barn, hen house and a rabbit home. The barn alone already takes a quarter of your whole property.

[KainSvendir]

We're also definitely getting solar panels at some point right, we just have to help with creating a vegetal barrier maybe to stop at least part of the sand, and more efficient machines will mean less machines needed for the same result (puls possible factory like in Portia). Space won't always be an issue.

[Anke84]

Hy,
I think the space is way too small for everything. I have fully developed the property, but there is not enough space for the house to expand it. The animals, plants and machines have already lost their place.
Would the property ever be expanded?

[Cutlass Jack]

anketarabay původně napsal:

Hy,
I think the space is way too small for everything. I have fully developed the property, but there is not enough space for the house to expand it. The animals, plants and machines have already lost their place.
Would the property ever be expanded?

Not sure from your post if you realized you could expand your property by clicking on the signs just outside your fence.

Or if you did know that and expanded to the maximum and it still wasn't enough.

[Blackstone30]

Cutlass Jack původně napsal:

anketarabay původně napsal:

Hy,
I think the space is way too small for everything. I have fully developed the property, but there is not enough space for the house to expand it. The animals, plants and machines have already lost their place.
Would the property ever be expanded?

Not sure from your post if you realized you could expand your property by clicking on the signs just outside your fence.

Or if you did know that and expanded to the maximum and it still wasn't enough.

Even if you expand your property to its 20k maximum its still not enough room. Go to Heidi the Constructor and even test to build the Barn. This building alone takes a quarter of your entire space. And some players surely wanna test every facette of the game like Farming, livestock husbandry, building. Which all takes alot space...not to mention you propably wanna increase the size of your house too...just in case they finally add marriage to the game.

[Explicitly Offensive Cuneiform]

Blackstone30 původně napsal:

Cutlass Jack původně napsal:

Not sure from your post if you realized you could expand your property by clicking on the signs just outside your fence.

Or if you did know that and expanded to the maximum and it still wasn't enough.

Even if you expand your property to its 20k maximum its still not enough room. Go to Heidi the Constructor and even test to build the Barn. This building alone takes a quarter of your entire space. And some players surely wanna test every facette of the game like Farming, livestock husbandry, building. Which all takes alot space...not to mention you propably wanna increase the size of your house too...just in case they finally add marriage to the game.

Farming is also insidious. farm land improves with each planting, so you NEED to reuse the same patch of land over and over again. If this had a rune factory crop rotation mechanic i would be ok with it, but it does not. I miss planter boxes. you can move those. but if you want to expand your property, or build new structures, then you may ruin good farmland.

[Zero]

I think people are missing the point of the dew collectors. They don't cost stamina or as much time to "go run out and chop a few things down" so you can hit them all early, and go on with your day consuming stamina for what you really want such as going into ruins or fighting monsters. I have 10 collectors and they don't consume that much space and i get multiple water per day. Some days, water tower only sells 5 water. Some days it sells 25. (for the first set of cheap water) It's too inconsistent to only rely on it and spending thousands of Gols on those days isn't ideal when I can build a few dew collectors and make up the difference. With dew collectors during the extra water crisis, I was actually able to postpone finishing the quest because I had sufficient water from dew collectors to augment my needs while maintaining like 30+ farm plots and 2-3 of every machine running all the time. Every few days I might go for some random resource grinding and get dew to help further, but dew collectors means I don't HAVE to. I like what they provide. You don't have to build them.