Kar98 -> best scope?

[Hydro]

Hi,

I'm a little bit overwhelmed with the many different attachments.
Where I could make some headway with the muzzle-devices, I didn't have a clue on scopes.

Do you think it's worth of putting a scope on one of my Kar98s?
(btw I couldn't understand the complains about no loot. I've found 5-6 Kar98s, 3 MP-40s ect. on the first Island)

Which scope is better?

The "quick prism-scope" (where, if you attack first and move later, it counts as 3 level aimed)
or the "prism-scope" (where you get a large crit-chance bonus, if you aim +3lvl)

Thx Hydro

[Don Montega]

Honestly, the thermal is best imo. Aiming 3 times negates all cover and weather penalties.
It just rocks with match ammo and is a rather surefire way to eliminate someone in the sights.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Hydrogenium:

Hi,

I'm a little bit overwhelmed with the many different attachments.
Where I could make some headway with the muzzle-devices, I didn't have a clue on scopes.

Do you think it's worth of putting a scope on one of my Kar98s?
(btw I couldn't understand the complains about no loot. I've found 5-6 Kar98s, 3 MP-40s ect. on the first Island)

Which scope is better?

The "quick prism-scope" (where, if you attack first and move later, it counts as 3 level aimed)
or the "prism-scope" (where you get a large crit-chance bonus, if you aim +3lvl)

Thx Hydro

"best" depends on how you like to use it. Overall probably thermal, but if you have enough AP to get two headshots in with the quick prism then that may be a better tradeoff most of the time.

Explore all sectors, even those without enemies. You can find a few upgrade materials that way.

[Hydro]

thx for your answers.

I didn't put the thermal-scope on the list, because I#m not sure the Kar98 is worth the "chip"-investment. What's your opinion of this rifle?

Originally posted by Shadow:

"best" depends on how you like to use it. Overall probably thermal, but if you have enough AP to get two headshots in with the quick prism then that may be a better tradeoff most of the time.

Explore all sectors, even those without enemies. You can find a few upgrade materials that way.

How many APs did you have?
Two shots with the Kar98 (without aim) costs 14 APs.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Hydrogenium:

thx for your answers.

I didn't put the thermal-scope on the list, because I#m not sure the Kar98 is worth the "chip"-investment. What's your opinion of this rifle?

Originally posted by Shadow:

"best" depends on how you like to use it. Overall probably thermal, but if you have enough AP to get two headshots in with the quick prism then that may be a better tradeoff most of the time.

Explore all sectors, even those without enemies. You can find a few upgrade materials that way.

How many APs did you have?
Two shots with the Kar98 (without aim) costs 14 APs.

I found a modded Kar98 with scope, bipod and silencer and it serves me well. Didn't want to invest in a chip attachment either yet, I'm waiting for better rifles.

I sometimes have 14 AP, depending on morale bonuses. But I like to aim, so a 4AP rifle works better for me with two fully aimed shots or 3 unaimed shots at very close range. I'm still using a .44 rifle I found on the first island.

[sooshon]

the basic rifles can be very good for a long time, prism scope is also quite good, ive been using it for a long time and even as i've found better rifles that i've decked out i still have MD equipped with the basic WW2 rifle with a prism scope and he does his fair share of work. definitely a worthy investment. Also depends on your scrap situation, if you start accumulating quite a bit definitely invest in your current weapon but do save at least a fair share in case you find a better weapon so you can mod it right away. and consider how good your mechanic is, i went crazy modding right after i got vicky with her 95 mechanical skill since she is quite unlikely to fail and waste scrap (though she still does sometimes). i remember early on trying to attach a bipod with livewire taking 4-5 tries and just burning through most of my supplies : (

and yeah thermal is my favored scope on my best sniper rifles. the fact that you can shoot through fog without worrying about everything grazing is huge

[jfoytek]

Originally posted by Hydrogenium:

Hi,

I'm a little bit overwhelmed with the many different attachments.
Where I could make some headway with the muzzle-devices, I didn't have a clue on scopes.

Do you think it's worth of putting a scope on one of my Kar98s?
(btw I couldn't understand the complains about no loot. I've found 5-6 Kar98s, 3 MP-40s ect. on the first Island)

Which scope is better?

The "quick prism-scope" (where, if you attack first and move later, it counts as 3 level aimed)
or the "prism-scope" (where you get a large crit-chance bonus, if you aim +3lvl)

Thx Hydro

It depends on your play style....

Do you find that you tend to be in position at the start of each turn ready to shoot from afar and you don't reposition that often, then the Prism scope could be quite good.

thermal is certainly really good for a natural marksman..... But lets say that live wire is using the gun she is not the best marksman wise so it could be better off for her to use a X10 scope to add to the aim bonus and give her a better chance to hit the head....

So Prism is great if your a bit of a camper that doesnt reposition enough and you have the AP to take advantage of a second shot...

Thermal is great to negate all the possible penaltys from cover to being at night etc but wont technically make your merc a better shot per say....

And x10 is better for a weak shot to make them a better shot

[jfoytek]

Originally posted by Hydrogenium:

thx for your answers.

I didn't put the thermal-scope on the list, because I#m not sure the Kar98 is worth the "chip"-investment. What's your opinion of this rifle?

Originally posted by Shadow:

"best" depends on how you like to use it. Overall probably thermal, but if you have enough AP to get two headshots in with the quick prism then that may be a better tradeoff most of the time.

Explore all sectors, even those without enemies. You can find a few upgrade materials that way.

How many APs did you have?
Two shots with the Kar98 (without aim) costs 14 APs.

FYI I have never seen a Kar98 in game.... most of the rifles on got on the starter island where Gewehr's.... So this is making me think that loot is more random then I thought it was....

[Don Montega]

I am 22 hours in, have liberated 3 settlements and Barry my explosives specialist still rocks the Kar98.
Splitting the ammo types used around your mercs is relaxing ammo constraints very much.
I have yet to find a suitable new sniper/dmr to replace the old world war Kar98 XD

[Hydro]

Originally posted by jfoytek:

Originally posted by Hydrogenium:

thx for your answers.

I didn't put the thermal-scope on the list, because I#m not sure the Kar98 is worth the "chip"-investment. What's your opinion of this rifle?



How many APs did you have?
Two shots with the Kar98 (without aim) costs 14 APs.

FYI I have never seen a Kar98 in game.... most of the rifles on got on the starter island where Gewehr's.... So this is making me think that loot is more random then I thought it was....

no, you are right it is called "Gewehr 98" in game.
The equivalent in RL should be the Kar98.

Thanx for your ansers.

[Torpex]

G98 is in the game not K98. And for your sneaky sniper I would use a prism scope as it increases crit chance.

[jfoytek]

Originally posted by Don Montega:

I am 22 hours in, have liberated 3 settlements and Barry my explosives specialist still rocks the Kar98.
Splitting the ammo types used around your mercs is relaxing ammo constraints very much.
I have yet to find a suitable new sniper/dmr to replace the old world war Kar98 XD

My favorite so far is the Winchester 1894 fully kitted out.... you need to put a barrel extension on it so it has proper range plus the x10 scope and the silencer

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3005850797

[tenchifew]

Originally posted by Hydrogenium:

Originally posted by jfoytek:

FYI I have never seen a Kar98 in game.... most of the rifles on got on the starter island where Gewehr's.... So this is making me think that loot is more random then I thought it was....

no, you are right it is called "Gewehr 98" in game.
The equivalent in RL should be the Kar98.

Thanx for your ansers.

This is actually wrong.
G98 (Gewehr 98) is a real life rifle and is the one in the game. K98 is the carabiner version (98 Karabiner) and is a later introduced modified version of G98, the differences are not that numerous, but they are there, the main one Kar 98 (K98) being shorter.

[Don Montega]

Originally posted by jfoytek:

Originally posted by Don Montega:

I am 22 hours in, have liberated 3 settlements and Barry my explosives specialist still rocks the Kar98.
Splitting the ammo types used around your mercs is relaxing ammo constraints very much.
I have yet to find a suitable new sniper/dmr to replace the old world war Kar98 XD

My favorite so far is the Winchester 1894 fully kitted out.... you need to put a barrel extension on it so it has proper range plus the x10 scope and the silencer

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3005850797

Man that thing is sexy.
Just as i wrote my previous post i looted an M24 in a fight and have since reaplaced the old sniper.
Scrapping the old gun for the chip was very lucky.

[veevoir]

Two best scopes:

- Thermal for good sniper rifles (you can buy Dragunov from poachers already with thermal and it runs on very popular snipers)
- quick prism on anything else that can fit it and will be shot stationary (so smaller one-shotters, assault rifles).

As for itemization - I also complained, but this is due to game suggesting that you should go to Port Cacao next. DON'T. Go up, poacher camp,port next to A2 mine - and you get fun stuff. The quest from poacher camp alone can also get you some M24 (though I find Dragunov more handy)