Game hitchance is brutal lying

[Dwarf Floyd]

You can have a chance of 90% its 50 50in reality! 60% and i load game back 5 times until a hit! I tested the legimity of it now so often, and its like, the game on purpose make you miss! I mean it like that! I had so often 90% git chance and no hit! what the heck... As fun the game is but i don't get it.

[LArc7thHeaven]

Sir Lance alot lähetti viestin:

I found out you can train your mercs. I trained them dexterity and marksmanship and the percentage now is better fitting. I believe Dexterity is important!

This. 80 dexterity and 80 marksmanship will guarantee hit. I rarely had any missing shot even when 3+ aimed because of high dexterity and marksmanship, unless it's foggy and when LMG blocked by terrain or something and i'm not using show chance to hit mod, just quick prism, at least 80 dex 80 marks, and aim for the head, ezpz

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drakobn lähetti viestin:

I use the CTH mod as well and something strange is that I've missed literal 100% shots. It's only happened two or so times and it seems like it was some kind of physics bug, because the merc's bullet ended up hitting some rock or something that was in front of them that the game didn't seem to be taking into account when it showed the hit chance.

That mod isn't gospel. I have missed plenty of 100% shots and 100% melee hits to the neck miss regularly. Something isn't quite right and it might be that something rounds the values off. 100% might well be 99.6% rounded up for display purposes or it's a bug.

[sandman25dcsss]

LArc7thHeaven lähetti viestin:

Sir Lance alot lähetti viestin:

I found out you can train your mercs. I trained them dexterity and marksmanship and the percentage now is better fitting. I believe Dexterity is important!

This. 80 dexterity and 80 marksmanship will guarantee hit. I rarely had any missing shot even when 3+ aimed because of high dexterity and marksmanship, unless it's foggy and when LMG blocked by terrain or something and i'm not using show chance to hit mod, just quick prism, at least 80 dex 80 marks, and aim for the head, ezpz

Just install CtH mod and see what mks, dex, prism and head do exactly instead of guessing.

[Lightning]

For some reason its only the beginning of the game mostly where you constantly miss the 3x zoom every single time till you get the sniper rifles which make it more accurate for some odd reason in close combat as well.

[SirMilagres]

OP just demonstrated why showing CTH is a bad idea: Most players don't know how % works

[[NcK]MasterShake|CM]

Game doesn't offer you a CTH. You modded it in, the results of the quackery are on you.

[Gunsalves]

MinenSpecht lähetti viestin:

Why are you playing with cth? Just trust your mercs comment when aiming.

Their comments when aiming only piss me off to no end... They will say something like this should be easy and miss multiple times from a shot a few squares away. It's unreal.

[Morianthi]

For that, this may be what you're looking for: "Baby Don't You Lie to Me!" It's a mod, look it up.

[Ammo Man]

NcKMasterShake|CM lähetti viestin:

Game doesn't offer you a CTH. You modded it in, the results of the quackery are on you.

As discussed earlier in this thread you either didn't read or read very poorly (or I guess maybe read and forgot, which is about the same thing, really), the Show CTH mod was made by the devs and released on the day the game was. Try to keep up with conversations before participating in them, especially if you're looking to insult and berate players. (I guess you could blame the devs if you want, but I think we can take as read that they are probably pretty good at modding the game they developed ... and if you have some sort of compelling evidence that there is anything wrong with the Show CTH mod, it must have accidentally been deleted from your post or something. (Simplest solution would be to assume that Steam doesn't work, not that you're just an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.)

Bare minimum attempts at decency will garner you a lot less hostility from people who might actually be worth talking to, and you might even learn something.

I guess it's at least a little interesting that the most annoying person in this thread ended up NOT being someone whining about things happening consistent with our understanding of probability and reality or adding too many zeroes to numbers to show their ignorance and/or bad faith.

CTH works right and feels right for what it is, especially with full-damage autofire modded in; those low-percentage shots/bursts are all frightening and deadly, like bullets in gunfights. Roll the dice or be a crybaby, I guess.

[cockadoodledoo]

I dont get the entire problem tbh, i played Xcom a few weeks back and missed a shot with 99% probability, did I whine about it, did it make my gaming experience worse, no. As for JA3, well you miss shots, surprise, in real life soldiers/mercs also do miss shots and they do not have a CTH visible, they rely on their experience, same do the mercs. So as said before listen to what they say and act accordingly. Personally i dont think its a make or break issue, for a overall well done game. But those are only my 2 cents...

[orochiart]

I don't know what is the problem. Here are my current mercs 30 days into campaign.

(I didn't use training to increase their stats. They all mostly have starting stats and maybe got few upgrades from levels and 1-3 magazines at best to round up the stat)

1.only snipers are doing headshots. Most other mercs do shots to the torso.
2.Either quick scope single shot & single shot aim x3 OR single shot & burst fire if they are decent shots and when I had no weapon variety they got AK-47 with vertical grip to do burst fire aim x3 (9 AP)
3. Assault rifle mercs that can get Recoil Menagment perk take is as first perk.
4. Compensator is almost on every weapon unless it is sniper rifle or for Stealth killer like Mouse

Here are some stats so far:
merc, percentage of hits, hits/misses, weapon, weapon mods, perks

Vicki 97% 86/3 dual glocks with compensators
Buns 96% 53/2 m24 aimx5 scope, UV dot, heavy stock, silencer

Kalyina 95% 78/4 m24 aimx5 scope, UV dot, heavy stock, silencer

Hitman 95% 38/2 FAMAS quickscope, uv dot, compensator RECOIL MENAGEMENT

Omryn 90% 90/10 AK47 vertical grip. red dot, compensator, bipod RECOIL MENAGEMENT

Fox 89% 89/11 dual Berretta, long barrel, silencers & dual Glock17 like Vicki

Thor 88% 56/8 AK-47 vertical grip. red dot, compensator, bipod RECOIL MENAGEMENT

Wolf 88% 53/7 m14 from Diamond Red port (quick scope and bipod) RECOIL MENAGEMENT

Mouse 82% 126/27 FAMAS silencer, vertical grip, red dot

MD 82% 76/17 FAMAS quick scope compensator, vertical grip, red dot RECOIL MENAGEMENT

Grizzly 81% 126/30 RPK or Minimi from close range (depends what ammo I have in surplus) quick scope or aimx3 in close range RECOIL MENAGEMENT

Barry 80% 59/15 auto-5 point blank shots (breacher rounds) with fast mover perk

Livewire 78% 100/29 MP5K normal or heavy stock, vertical grip, compensator.

I had to heal them from time to time but it is doable.

(I have 2 more melee characters and Larry. Larry freshly joined and mostly just throws bombs)

TL;DR I use mercs with their starting stats and I have no major difficulty progressing the campaign.

[Tribal44]

better positioning or tactics solve it.
why would you take a chance with poor or bad shots ?
And anyway, at the end of the day, it s never 100%.