Dragunov rifle, are you kidding? (Rant)

[Efendi_]

Ok, first DMR i have found is a dragunov:

https://imgur.com/a/ICzjgnK

Features of the rifle:
- Decreased (!) bonus from aiming (What the hell?)
- Very noisy
- Rifle with burst firing mode (?)

I do not expect everyone to have some general knowledge about firearms however most if not all people can use a keyboard and browse the wikipedia page of the rifle they intend to model and implement into their games.

I guess the project was a little bit more complicated than the Haemimont Games had expected.

[draass]

Ya the guns are not very balanced (or bugged), guess they are either doing updates or letting modders fix it.

[Efendi_]

Publicado originalmente por draass:

Ya the guns are not very balanced (or bugged), guess they are either doing updates or letting modders fix it.

I wonder, was there no alpha or beta testing? Having an early access release irons out such terrible complications.

[Chillermaschine]

It's also 7,62x39

I had such high hopes for the guns after they boasted about recording gunshot sounds with the bulgarian army...
Why make a game about guns and shooting and not do any research on, like, guns and shooting?

[Hans Blitz]

The Dragonov in the original game was a small clip rifle no burst only a sniper rifle with about 80 reach & high damage output, you could add scopes and other modifications too it like laser sights i think.
Patches might fix some early release bugs over the first 2 weeks.

[I gurgle for Nurgle]

I suspect it's a Dragunoff, a local bootleg version of a Dragunov rifle, made from an old rusty AK-47, taken from grandpa's stash. Hence it's very noisy, uses 7.62x39 and has a burst fire mode.

[Lightning]

For now that I don't have an actual sniper rifle for my marksmen mercs they're using that Samas white rifle that has all those perks which does pretty well

[Hans Blitz]

I have a $50 half broken AK47 with 1 bullet left in cartridge and it's about too fall apart because it jams every second shot my mechanic had fun jamming this pile of crap a few times before now consider scraping this junk AK 47 in some effort to upgrade other more important functional weapons.

[Chillermaschine]

Publicado originalmente por I gurgle for Nurgle:

I suspect it's a Dragunoff, a local bootleg version of a Dragunov rifle, made from an old rusty AK-47, taken from grandpa's stash. Hence it's very noisy, uses 7.62x39 and has a burst fire mode.

I like your approach, my suspension of disbelief has been successfully reinstated.

[Dorok]

People, real life weapons would be heavily unbalanced in a game, that there's a weapon progression is one thing, expect real life copy is going too far for a good gameplay.

Let some mod screw up the gameplay.

Dragunov is a semi auto so has a burst mode unlike what seems pretend OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_SVU

For the aiming, OP or game tooltip isn't clear, what bonus?

[Voodoo]

Publicado originalmente por Dorok:

People, real life weapons would be heavily unbalanced in a game, that there's a weapon progression is one thing, expect real life copy is going too far for a good gameplay.

Let some mod screw up the gameplay.

Dragunov is a semi auto so has a burst mode unlike what seems pretend OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_SVU

For the aiming, OP or game tooltip isn't clear, what bonus?

Excuse me? what? you played 1.13?
Full auto doing full damage and damage based on catrridge not gun is perfectly doable in jagged alliance
Will it absolutely shred through unarmored enemies, yes, thats kinda the point.

[Dorok]

Publicado originalmente por Voodoo:

Publicado originalmente por Dorok:

People, real life weapons would be heavily unbalanced in a game, that there's a weapon progression is one thing, expect real life copy is going too far for a good gameplay.

Let some mod screw up the gameplay.

Dragunov is a semi auto so has a burst mode unlike what seems pretend OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_SVU

For the aiming, OP or game tooltip isn't clear, what bonus?

Excuse me? what? you played 1.13?
Full auto doing full damage and damage based on catrridge not gun is perfectly doable in jagged alliance

An amateur mod is no reality. Nor even any game someone achieved sell for money to anybody.

Stop make this mod a reference it has obviously many screwed up designs like ridiculous massive loot drop.

[Voodoo]

Publicado originalmente por Dorok:

Publicado originalmente por Voodoo:

Excuse me? what? you played 1.13?
Full auto doing full damage and damage based on catrridge not gun is perfectly doable in jagged alliance

An amateur mod is no reality. Nor even any game someone achieved sell for money to anybody.

Stop make this mod a reference it has obviously many screwed up designs like ridiculous massive loot drop.

Again, jagged alliance 2 without 1.13 had same damage on burst and single shot, it didnt have proper full auto though, so again youre wrong

Oh yeah 1.13 also had normal ja2 loot option, didnt even have to dig through ini.

[Dorok]

Publicado originalmente por Voodoo:

Publicado originalmente por Dorok:

An amateur mod is no reality. Nor even any game someone achieved sell for money to anybody.

Stop make this mod a reference it has obviously many screwed up designs like ridiculous massive loot drop.

Again, jagged alliance 2 without 1.13 had same damage on burst and single shot, it didnt have proper full auto though, so again youre wrong

Oh yeah 1.13 also had normal ja2 loot option, didnt even have to dig through ini.

Yeah 1000 options, that's mod stuff not pro, mostly no player want lost time dig 1000 options. If now I have to design the games myself... No thanks.

[Voodoo]

Publicado originalmente por Dorok:

Publicado originalmente por Voodoo:

Again, jagged alliance 2 without 1.13 had same damage on burst and single shot, it didnt have proper full auto though, so again youre wrong

Oh yeah 1.13 also had normal ja2 loot option, didnt even have to dig through ini.

Yeah 1000 options, that's mod stuff not pro, mostly no player want lost time dig 1000 options. If now I have to design the games myself... No thanks.

Funny how you skipped how i mentioned that base game without mod also didnt need to modify dmg on automatics.

That said, 1.13 was the most popular mod for the game which kept it alive years after it should have died and by anyone who played it was considered improvement of every aspect of base game, to which your best response is "yeah its a mod not released game and i dont like it"

[Dorok]

Fix your OP because it complains about burst which is a total absurdity, more a fix of some stupidity of JA2 or its mod.

And for the bonus clarify it.