A Good New JA Game Will Never Get Made

[LarryWF]

Prove me wrong.

This is the same company, THQNordic, that released JA Rage.

And it doesn't matter who tries it next. The problem will always be that nobody wants to give this franchise the budget it needs to have the large amount of full voiced characters and NPCs that interact with each other while also having decent open world strategy mechanics.

[Huitzilopochtli]

引用自 Multihog：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

You never even tried JA: Back in Action which is the best JA by far cause it is a modern game with fun combat and good graphics. You assumed it was bad cause it was not JA2 cloned - the same exact "logic" the rest of the haters parrot.

I give you that JA: BIA has great combat. That it does. But it doesn't help much when the strategic (map) gameplay is laughably bad and the mercs all look and sound like they have down's syndrome. The militia system is also AWFUL.

Are you sure? The militia in JA2 are agonizingly slow and miss 99.999% of their shots with those little 38 pistols they all carry and the bullets sound like bowling balls bouncing and rolling along the ground for 30 seconds after every excruciatingly boring miss. The JA2 militia are just there to get shot at a glacier pace in that clunky ancient game. I couldn't take that torture.

[Multihog]

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

引用自 Multihog：

I give you that JA: BIA has great combat. That it does. But it doesn't help much when the strategic (map) gameplay is laughably bad and the mercs all look and sound like they have down's syndrome. The militia system is also AWFUL.

Are you sure? The militia in JA2 are agonizingly slow and miss 99.999% of their shots with those little 38 pistols they all carry and the bullets sound like bowling balls bouncing and rolling along the ground for 30 seconds after every excruciatingly boring miss. The JA2 militia are just there to get shot at a glacier pace in that clunky ancient game. I couldn't take that torture.

Veteran militia is competent, so no, they're not all useless. Even greenhorn militia is good in autoresolve battles.

The main thing doesn't even have to do with how they deal with battles on the tactical map; it has to do with how you train them and how the autoresolve system works. BIA has the most idiotic militia recruitment and equipment system. You have to manually walk around the map like a moron, handing out weapons to individual soldiers. It's a complete design failure and insane busywork. JA2 handled it much better, making them equip weapons automatically and training in batches.

In BIA it's also hard to get enough militia so that you can effectively forget about your already secured sectors like in JA2. BIA has you run back and forth micromanaging your militia. It's horrible sh!t and the thing dissuading me from going back to BIA after one playthrough. Also the strategic AI spams attacks constantly.

[Huitzilopochtli]

引用自 Multihog：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

Are you sure? The militia in JA2 are agonizingly slow and miss 99.999% of their shots with those little 38 pistols they all carry and the bullets sound like bowling balls bouncing and rolling along the ground for 30 seconds after every excruciatingly boring miss. The JA2 militia are just there to get shot at a glacier pace in that clunky ancient game. I couldn't take that torture.

Veteran militia is competent, so no, they're not all useless. Even greenhorn militia is good in autoresolve battles.

The main thing doesn't even have to do with how they deal with battles on the tactical map; it has to do with how you train them and how the autoresolve system works. BIA has the most idiotic militia recruitment and equipment system. You have to manually walk around the map like a moron, handing out weapons to individual soldiers. It's a complete design failure and insane busywork. JA2 handled it much better, making them equip weapons automatically and training in batches.

In BIA it's also hard to get enough militia so that you can effectively forget about your already secured sectors like in JA2. BIA has you run back and forth micromanaging your militia. It's horrible sh!t and the thing dissuading me from going back to BIA after one playthrough. Also the strategic AI spams attacks constantly.

The problem is you suck at the game. You should have one team that eliminates the enemy assault force every time so you don't have to worry about militia. Just give them some guns and train them up and then forget about them. Your the second merc team should be doing the killing, and you probably don't even have a second team. It is common sense and realistic. The militia in real life would all quit if they were used like frontline infantry. They want to smoke weed and stare at porn on their cell phones all day like most losers do.

[Multihog]

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

引用自 Multihog：

Veteran militia is competent, so no, they're not all useless. Even greenhorn militia is good in autoresolve battles.

The main thing doesn't even have to do with how they deal with battles on the tactical map; it has to do with how you train them and how the autoresolve system works. BIA has the most idiotic militia recruitment and equipment system. You have to manually walk around the map like a moron, handing out weapons to individual soldiers. It's a complete design failure and insane busywork. JA2 handled it much better, making them equip weapons automatically and training in batches.

In BIA it's also hard to get enough militia so that you can effectively forget about your already secured sectors like in JA2. BIA has you run back and forth micromanaging your militia. It's horrible sh!t and the thing dissuading me from going back to BIA after one playthrough. Also the strategic AI spams attacks constantly.

The problem is you suck at the game. You should have one team that eliminates the enemy assault force every time so you don't have to worry about militia. Just give them some guns and train them up and then forget about them. Your the second merc team should be doing the killing, and you probably don't even have a second team. It is common sense and realistic. The militia in real life would all quit if they were used like frontline infantry. They want to smoke weed and stare at porn on their cell phones all day like most losers do.

You must be one of these "losers" you're talking about because you apparently have enough time to waste to do thousands of pointless battles in BIA with Deidranna spamming her attacks, like the god-awful strategic AI always does. The point of using militia instead of your own guys is so you can AUTORESOLVE the battles. You're one of the handful of morons on this planet who are willing fight trivial battles over and over, going through loading screens back and forth—and on top of that running around towns clicking on individual people roaming around, hiring them and giving them weapons. If the game wasn't a total joke, you could do all of that from the strategic map like JA2 in f*cking 1999.

Just because you're simple-minded enough not to be annoyed by that doesn't mean it's not absolute sh!t tier game design. I bet you also like copying and pasting individual letters instead of copying an entire block of text at once. I bet you also like fighting every single trivial fight against 5 goblins in a Total War game on turn 200 instead of autoresolving it. That's basically what you're defending here.

[Huitzilopochtli]

引用自 Multihog：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

The problem is you suck at the game. You should have one team that eliminates the enemy assault force every time so you don't have to worry about militia. Just give them some guns and train them up and then forget about them. Your the second merc team should be doing the killing, and you probably don't even have a second team. It is common sense and realistic. The militia in real life would all quit if they were used like frontline infantry. They want to smoke weed and stare at porn on their cell phones all day like most losers do.

You must be one of these "losers" you're talking about because you apparently have enough time to waste to do thousands of pointless battles in BIA with Deidranna spamming her attacks, like the god-awful strategic AI always does. The point of using militia instead of your own guys is so you can AUTORESOLVE the battles. You're one of the handful of morons on this planet who are willing fight trivial battles over and over, going through loading screens back and forth—and on top of that running around towns clicking on individual people roaming around, hiring them and giving them weapons. If the game wasn't a total joke, you could do all of that from the strategic map like JA2 in f*cking 1999.

Just because you're simple-minded enough not to be annoyed by that doesn't mean it's not absolute sh!t tier game design. I bet you also like copying and pasting individual letters instead of copying an entire block of text at once. I bet you also like fighting every single trivial fight against 5 goblins in a Total War game on turn 200 instead of autoresolving it. That's basically what you're defending here.

Sorry not all games can be as modern and sophisticated as clunky old JA2 and I'm sorry you think I am a moron, a loser and a goblin. I'll leave you to the bullets that perform like bowling balls and militia with aim so bad they cannot hit a building while they are inside it.

[Waclaw83]

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

(...) I'm sorry you think I am a moron, a loser and a goblin.

For the record, you were never called a goblin. English might not be your first language, and if that's the case you should spend some time polishing your language skills instead of throwing tantrums because people prefer something else over what you enjoy

[Hammer Bear]

引用自 Waclaw83：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

(...) I'm sorry you think I am a moron, a loser and a goblin.

For the record, you were never called a goblin. English might not be your first language, and if that's the case you should spend some time polishing your language skills instead of throwing tantrums because people prefer something else over what you enjoy

＾ this

[Huitzilopochtli]

引用自 Waclaw83：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

(...) I'm sorry you think I am a moron, a loser and a goblin.

For the record, you were never called a goblin. English might not be your first language, and if that's the case you should spend some time polishing your language skills instead of throwing tantrums because people prefer something else over what you enjoy

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

[Huitzilopochtli]

引用自 Hammer Bear：

引用自 Waclaw83：

For the record, you were never called a goblin. English might not be your first language, and if that's the case you should spend some time polishing your language skills instead of throwing tantrums because people prefer something else over what you enjoy

＾ this

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

[Multihog]

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

引用自 Hammer Bear：

＾ this

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

You are the most pathetic of all though with your endlessly toxic sh!tposting, spewing textual diarrhea all over and contributing nothing useful.

[Waclaw83]

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

引用自 Hammer Bear：

＾ this

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

Old? Full time? Salty? Dull and humorless? I'm none of that, and been cheerfull about our little conversation thus far in case you haven't noticed. Even threw some emoji here and there to spice things up a bit. You on the other hand? Don't seem to notice that majority of people would rather have a reskin of JA2 instead of JA:BiA, and somehow feel the need to bring everyone down, despite the devs themeselves being blunt honest they are making a JA2 spiritual successor.

So I agree with Multihog, you've been thus far toxic. Plain and simple. Maybe go back to the JA:BiA community section and be active there for a change? I mean, you seem to be so unhappy with how JA3 is shaping up to be and that people are happy with what they're gonna get. So why stay around us "old full-time gamers that are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so that we can't handle anything outside the box", huh? Devs seem to be like us, so do soemthing better with your life than lowering to our level

[vewlixx]

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

引用自 Hammer Bear：

＾ this

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

Before making a post in the future, consider the following things:
Is this post useful to anyone?
Is this post thought provoking?
Is this post funny?
If it is none of these things, consider not making the post in the first place.

[Hammer Bear]

引用自 vewlixx：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

Before making a post in the future, consider the following things:
Is this post useful to anyone?
Is this post thought provoking?
Is this post funny?
If it is none of these things, consider not making the post in the first place.

guys, cut him some slack, will ya?
he is having lots of problem in real life
not smart, not fit, not pleasant to look at
so he has no friend, no real job, and ofc no gf
even his family think he is failure, he has No One
but here in internet, he can be anyone, can do anything
he can insult everyone, and worry noting, thanks to anonymity
this is only thing he got, only place he got, so have Pity on this man child
he just need some love that he will never gonna experience, what a sad poor kid

[Butterside down]

There is a reason why Xenonauts and X2 were created with support from the original xcom fanbase. Firaxis Xcom is a successful game with a huge following but it did not appeal to all of the niche fans of the original microprose Xcom 1994. I have a feeling JA3 is going to be a huge success. But we may see that success drawn from a new following for a game that might not exactly capture the original spirit.

[Huitzilopochtli]

引用自 vewlixx：

引用自 Goopasloppababookaba：

You are too dumb to realize I threw in the goblin for fun. You old full-time gamers are salty, dull, humorless and dreadfully serious so you can't handle anything outside the box. Chronic gaming turns your brain in a lifeless, low IQ stone. So you circle jerk with other old salts just like you.

Before making a post in the future, consider the following things:
Is this post useful to anyone?
Is this post thought provoking?
Is this post funny?
If it is none of these things, consider not making the post in the first place.

How about follow your own rules and not post this crap. Duh?
Look in a mirror hypocrite before lecturing other people about your problems.