Jagged Alliance 3

Jagged Alliance 3

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AndreTheGiant May 26, 2024 @ 11:33am
No DLC?
Is this game dead or is a dlc on the way?
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Hopper May 29, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by suejak:
Deadly Games and Unfinished Business/Wildfire were all trash designed to milk the base game, though. Would not miss them for a second if they were erased from history.
I agree about Wildfire, but I liked DG and UB. My point was, the JA games have had DLC/expansions since the 90s, so it's not some modern gamer mentality to ask if JA3 will have some DLC too.

Originally posted by SyWö | LockenCharlie:
Games are not dead. They are finished. Its like asking a director to shoot and add additional scenes to a finished movie. What is wrong with people like you?
Games do die, even JA games have died. Go check the pulse of JA: Online if you don't believe me, or go check the average player count on games like JA: Rage and JA: Flashback.
Keller20 May 31, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Hopper:
so it's not some modern gamer mentality to ask if JA3 will have some DLC too.

Modern gamer mentality is to cry about "dead game" every time there's two weeks without patches or DLCs.
Cliff.uckingBooth Jun 1, 2024 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Keller20:
Originally posted by Hopper:
so it's not some modern gamer mentality to ask if JA3 will have some DLC too.

Modern gamer mentality is to cry about "dead game" every time there's two weeks without patches or DLCs.
This
Multihog Jun 3, 2024 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by John Helldiver:
Originally posted by Blood Eagle:
Is this game dead or is a dlc on the way?
Pretty much dead
Dead? It's just complete. It's not a live service game.

It's a successful game.
Last edited by Multihog; Jun 3, 2024 @ 8:38am
ChaosKhan Jun 3, 2024 @ 10:05am 
Originally posted by SyWö | LockenCharlie:
Games are not dead. They are finished. Its like asking a director to shoot and add additional scenes to a finished movie. What is wrong with people like you?

No, what's wrong with YOU? DLCs, or previously referred to as "Add-On", were staple for every possible somewhat successful game. Hell, JA3 would be the first JA game to not receive anything.

Originally posted by Multihog:
Dead? It's just complete. It's not a live service game.

It's a successful game.

How is it complete? Tons of merc still missing, tons of possible content to add on the map, weapons, ammo types, etc, possible map expansion is also an option, etc. Add-ons and DLC don't mean that a game has been left unfinished. Their existence means, that the devs expand on it.

Or do you seriously think there is nothing that you can add to JA3 at this point? Not having much of a fantasy and imagination, huh?
Last edited by ChaosKhan; Jun 3, 2024 @ 10:09am
TexMcQuade Jun 3, 2024 @ 10:31am 
I would have to agree. JA3 is absoutely in need of a DLC or large scale campaign mod.
uncle nick Jun 3, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
Yeah nah, it's just business as usual. There are no plans (news blackout) for major DLC involving the game publisher until after the company to be known as 'Coffee Stains and Friends' has been listed on the stock exchange. Thought that would be obvious to many.

How can any game studio enter into a new contractual arrangements with a game publisher that does not exist yet? Any lawyers here? You guys are the only people making content with Embracer Group.
TexMcQuade Jun 3, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by uncle nick:
Yeah nah, it's just business as usual. There are no plans (news blackout) for major DLC involving the game publisher until after the company to be known as 'Coffee Stains and Friends' has been listed on the stock exchange. Thought that would be obvious to many.

How can any game studio enter into a new contractual arrangements with a game publisher that does not exist yet? Any lawyers here? You guys are the only people making content with Embracer Group.

So only one solution = mods. My question is where are the modders and fans who want to build or support new campaign mods? Sir Ni is leading the charge and buiding superb mods, but on speaking with him directly about building a large campaign mod (e.g. JA2 port into JA3 - recreating Arulco), he said he cant do this alone. It needs a team of modders to build a DLC size project. I started a thread of starting a kickstarter to fund JA2 port, but got no comments back..
uncle nick Jun 3, 2024 @ 2:24pm 
Ask at bearpit or discord. There are lots of modders, but no leadership team. Last Kickstarter was led by a small game dev called Full Control, and supported by Shanga. Full Control is gone. Shanga, nowadays he seems preoccupied with other projects.
Last edited by uncle nick; Jun 3, 2024 @ 2:35pm
Engioc Jun 3, 2024 @ 8:48pm 
I suspect uncle nick is right, but even if something was in development it's unlikely we'll hear any news for a while yet, they won't make any announcements till the last minute when they know exactly what is and isn't included.

I feel people are being a bit to pessimistic assuming there won't be any DLC, and for the same reason I think people are being too impatient expecting a DLC to be announced/released any time soon.

It wasn't that long ago they were done with patching and modding tools, any DLC content will take more than a couple of months to plan out before they can even begin developing it. I doubt we'll hear anything till at least the end of the year, but it'll likely be 2025 before any announcements get made.

Just enjoy the game for what it is right now, and keep an eye out for good quality mods.
MangorushZ Jun 5, 2024 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Keller20:
Originally posted by Hopper:
so it's not some modern gamer mentality to ask if JA3 will have some DLC too.

Modern gamer mentality is to cry about "dead game" every time there's two weeks without patches or DLCs.
That's mellienals and zoomers for ya. Two cry babies constantly crying and attacking each other like children.
.Drak! Jun 5, 2024 @ 5:25pm 
Well... yeah, it was stated from the beginning that this was a modding platform, or in other words a modern JA made with modding in mind and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but yeah a kickstarter would need to be very well thought of, when you say port you mean rebuilding JA2 on top of JA3's engine? Should be very doable but budget estimations would vary wildly, you'd need a lot of traction and community reach first.
.Drak! Jun 5, 2024 @ 5:29pm 
For OP, i mean, JA2 1.13 lived for a long long time after JA2 was "dead", I don't expect JA3 to die anytime soon even if the mod creation quality/quantity fluctuates/declines considerably.

Also nothing's to say that there aren't bigger projects around to add multiple campaigns by multiple modders, just that it may take em months/years to finish.
cockadoodledoo Jun 6, 2024 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by .Drak!:
Also nothing's to say that there aren't bigger projects around to add multiple campaigns by multiple modders, just that it may take em months/years to finish.

Yes, that is the issue, let alone creating a map even when you copy+paste a lot from existing maps, it easily takes one day (8hrs) to finish one that is up to the games standards. Not counting in all the quest writing, technical stuff and testing. So for a full on Campaign, it can take months and even a year. Also ppl working on mods usually have a "real life" and other things to do as well.
As to rebuilding JA2 in JA3, I agree you would need a team of dedicated modders.
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Date Posted: May 26, 2024 @ 11:33am
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