What are you supposed to do against brutes

[Porkie]

4 run up to you, any time you hit one your squad gets shotgunned in the face with an auto-hitting bleed shot.
You can't run from them because they'll still hit you unless you're very far away and next turn they'll run you down and shoot you for free

Actual ♥♥♥♥ for brains design on that perk

[orochiart]

Yeah. Brutes are fun. I think everyone learned the hard way. You can try a few things:


(0- brutes always retaliate toward a person who attacked them. Look at option 3.)
1. Have a "designate sniper" somewhere hidden that uses stealth. Then they have a chance to instakill the brutes.
2. If you have a merc that is an amazing sniper you can headshot brutes with M24, Winchester or PSG1. Can't retaliate if you have no head.
3. Have a merc positioned on the side/flank outside the shotgun range. Attack at a brute from the side. Then the brute will shot toward them and miss because of the distance.
4. Before they can rush you... aim for their legs. So that way they can't rush you. This gives you an extra round to take them out.

[Ddawg]

I usually either hit them hard enough to kill them in one shot, or at least try to suppress/slow them.

You could also use someone with the Sudden Strike perk so they don't trigger their interrupt

But yeah, they are pretty annoying

[Porkie]

Originally posted by orochiart:

Here is a thing. You can try a few things.

1. Have a "sniper" somewhere that uses stealth. Then they have a chance to instakill the brutes.
2. If you have an amazing sniper headshot them with M24, Winchester or PSG1.
2. Have a merc positioned on the side/flank. Attack at a brute from the side. Then the brute will shot toward them and miss because of the distance.
3. Before they can rush you... aim for their legs. So that way they can't rush you. This gives you an extra round to take them out.

I don't have anywhere near M24s or amazing snipers :) I just started the first village on mainland.

Putting a sniper on the roof worked but that is still such a brokenly annoying perk. It's enough that I'd have missed twice and that's it. Their attacks sometimes also cause slow so.. eh

Worst thing is the game doesn't communicate to you wtf is happening. Next think I know I shoot at a brute and randomly they shoot their own ally, or an npc. It's just dumb. Asymmetric in a dumb way also.

[SirHawk]

Shoot their legs while they're still far away if you're unable to kill any with a single shot. Throw gas grenades as well.

[orochiart]

What mercs do you have?

If you were on Ernie you should have found at least one Gewehr 98. (there are two that are 100% lootable. One is in a crate, on a watch tower, in a Outpost sector (sector between landing place and Ernie Village. It has 80% durability. Other is located in Pierre's fort. Also in a crate on a watchtower. It is around 40% durability)

You can give Gewehr 98 and make a leg shot or groin shot from a distance so you slow them down. Leg shot is better because it really slows them down and allows your team to shoot at them from the distance without fear of retaliation from the brutes.

[Ddawg]

Originally posted by SirHawk:

Shoot their legs while they're still far away if you're unable to kill any with a single shot. Throw gas grenades as well.

Ah yeah, try molotovs to block their path too.

[uncle nick]

It's just Rock, Paper, Scissors, Shotgun. ONE merc on LMG overwatch duty can pretty much take care of them all by himself.

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[orochiart]

Originally posted by uncle nick:

It's just Rock, Paper, Scissors, Shotgun. ONE merc on LMG overwatch duty can pretty much take care of them all by himself.

That is heavy machine gun and he only started the game. Also those things eat all your ammo in one combat.

It isn't a good advice if someone just left Ernie and don't have access to sufficient ammo. Maybe they don't have a HMG, maybe they don't have specific ammo for a specific weapon. NATO vs Soviet ammunition. And maybe even Bobby doesn't have specific ammo to sell for 10 days.

[uncle nick]

Yeah, Rock Paper Shotgun too. My only one advice for Ernie, is to always hire Lemonwire and Barry, they pretty much carries any noob playthru team thru Ernie. Lemonwire gives you intel where the enemy are, and Barry kills them with his free shaped charges.

[Porkie]

Ok I think I have them sorted out.

Leg shots followed by overwatch is the thing.

I don't; have fancy lmgs or gas grenades etc yet

[Noobiecanoobie]

Grit can help for mercs that need to be close.
Failing that, carry some band-aids ;)

[TBLackey]

You must be trying to do Fleatown Market too early. Come back to it when you have a better squad and better weapons.

[Stone]

Easy, shoot all in legs and then grenade them?

[orochiart]

Originally posted by TBLackey:

You must be trying to do Fleatown Market too early. Come back to it when you have a better squad and better weapons.

Not necessarily. On my first play through I went from Ernie straight for Mfumu mine and then took over Fleatown. I had 7 mercs and IMP but it is still doable with standard weapons.

[r-cane]

Originally posted by orochiart:

Originally posted by TBLackey:

You must be trying to do Fleatown Market too early. Come back to it when you have a better squad and better weapons.

Not necessarily. On my first play through I went from Ernie straight for Mfumu mine and then took over Fleatown. I had 7 mercs and IMP but it is still doable with standard weapons.

I did it like that to. Mfumu mine and straight to fleatown. Killed all but 2 people on the map without raising alarm thanks to Fox and Mouse going on a stealth killing spree together. With those two you can kill enemies quietly even when 2 are next to each other, which happens a lot. Just give them both a knife and a pistol with silencer and subsonic ammunition, kill one with a stealth kill and the other during the surprise round.

To the OP post: Yeah, they are annoying, but since I play the game more like commandos I always know where the are and avoid them if I encounter them in a group until the very last when I can use positioning to my advantage, or if its one brute and one other I try to take the brute down with the stealthkill. They die just as easily from it and the remaining guy does usually have less hp then a brute.