SPOILER - refugee camp battle

[Včelí medvídek]

What follows it?

I mean.. I am probably too early there? Idk, I am some 110 days in the game but I spent most of time travleing around exploring no-city locations, intercepting diamond and weapon shipments with IMP, Livewire and Raven + Raider (yea, I realized Livewire dont like cops eventually but ebside cosntant banters they are ok together and I ahve bunch of marale traits so no big deal). Only very recently I liberated 2nd city and got communist mine.. this skyrocketed my income from some -2k/day to +12k/day.. so I took Frauda as most cost efficient explosive and hevay weapon user and thinking about filling one more slot with Scope.

Also started spend money at bobby ray for possible ebst equipment (medium and heavy armors, Dragunov.. tons of ammo and books.. having even mortar and some ammo.. spending 8-16k every time it refresh)

But now to strategic situation - I have explored maybe 20% of map (somehow expected in spirit of JA1 and JA2, the end of game is in opposite corner:p and now I have rescued Biff as actually I was led there very very early pursuing one diamond shipment... massive spoiler and voila I am at Refugee camp and major game twist (I guess)

Now my question babsically is what will follow? Shall I explore the island liberation, etc more? Shall win the challenge fight there (they got me twice, but I think Scope could make the difference I need to pull it through..) What will change in the game and how much i will have left to end? (eg. will I now become enemy with all the country? Will diamond income, etc. stay, what will be realtion with legion? etc..

[Sir Maelstrom]

Once that happens the Legion is no longer your only enemy. The Grand Chien Army will attempt to recapture all of the cities you control. You will need to take care of them too and they are significantly better equipped than the legion (defending militia have no chance against them)

You will be blamed for the Refugee Camp attack and need to gather evidence to clear your name

[Gladius Victorius]

After saving Biff and going to the refugee Camp to trigger the Military Attack the game change drastical in difficult as a new faktion show up that overrun all what you have done until then and will be much better and stronger then all what you see until then first you must stabilize the Situation then recover most part from all what you lost ( and you will loose a lot) then you can go on with the game more Quest and things to discover are in the east and yes you have to fight from then on the Legion and the new Faction you are at war with all. What you do at the end dipend on you it can be late game as you go for the main Quest that can be done then in some Week or Midgame and you go first to discover and make all other things.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Gladius Victorius:

After saving Biff and going to the refugee Camp to trigger the Military Attack the game change drastical in difficult as a new faktion show up that overrun all what you have done until then and will be much better and stronger then all what you see until then first you must stabilize the Situation then recover most part from all what you lost ( and you will loose a lot) then you can go on with the game more Quest and things to discover are in the east and yes you have to fight from then on the Legion and the new Faction you are at war with all. What you do at the end dipend on you it can be late game as you go for the main Quest that can be done then in some Week or Midgame and you go first to discover and make all other things.

Well but I dont own much.. hence not much to loose (and eventually recapture) I guess:p

So jsut thinking if I shall control more of the Island first? As beside Biff testimony I dont think I have much said evidence or clue where to get it..

[Sir Maelstrom]

You get evidence from talking to NPCs (sometimes you need to defeat them in battle first). Visit the refugee camp and examine shell fragments, you also need to defeat the major and Adonis Corporation which also counts as evidence if you manage the conversations carefully

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Sir Maelstrom:

You get evidence from talking to NPCs (sometimes you need to defeat them in battle first). Visit the refugee camp and examine shell fragments, you also need to defeat the major and Adonis Corporation which also counts as evidence if you manage the conversations carefully

Hmm I see.. but as I exdplored jsut small part of map - I will be udner permanent pressure form this new army? basically making decision if I shall trigegr this and continue game like this or explore/capture whole strategic map first. I am not agaisnt challange but not chore of very unnecessary difficulty either (eg if militia is really useless against this enw enemy I dont want keep running andrecapturing nonstop)

[Gladius Victorius]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Originally posted by Gladius Victorius:

After saving Biff and going to the refugee Camp to trigger the Military Attack the game change drastical in difficult as a new faktion show up that overrun all what you have done until then and will be much better and stronger then all what you see until then first you must stabilize the Situation then recover most part from all what you lost ( and you will loose a lot) then you can go on with the game more Quest and things to discover are in the east and yes you have to fight from then on the Legion and the new Faction you are at war with all. What you do at the end dipend on you it can be late game as you go for the main Quest that can be done then in some Week or Midgame and you go first to discover and make all other things.

Well but I dont own much.. hence not much to loose (and eventually recapture) I guess:p

So jsut thinking if I shall control more of the Island first? As beside Biff testimony I dont think I have much said evidence or clue where to get it..

You pay your Merc and for that you need the Mines and even them you will loose so think before you hire to much Mercs you must have enough Money left to survive some Day/Week with near nothing. Then Mines dont run forever some can dry out even that you must counter to not remain without Money. What you Control its your personal choice you can make the game even to the end with having nothing but that will change your End of the game as you will for sure miss the better ends. Evidence you will find on your way to the Main Quest End not all but most of them. And dont understimate the new Faction Legion are only a Group of Angry Pesants in confront of the new Faction if you play on high Difficult you will need more Mercs to not loose to much if you play for the first time.

To Militia you dont need to use your Main Squad for it hire a very Cheap Merc and let him Train the Militia so your main Squad can go on even 1 Merc with no leadership can train them slower but ok enough.
And no the new Faction will do the same as the Legion that dont change you will not be the entire time under Pressure but you must go forward in the game so you can hire more Mercs to help you and for that you need again more Mines and to get the most out of the Mines you need Citys and there loyialty. All what change is at the start of the game the Enemy come with Knifes and a some Boyscout after with Rambo and a Atomic Bomb :) so only the Fights become much more difficult

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Gladius Victorius:

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To Militia you dont need to use your Main Squad for it hire a very Cheap Merc and let him Train the Militia so your main Squad can go on even 1 Merc with no leadership can train them slower but ok enough.
And no the new Faction will do the same as the Legion that dont change you will not be the entire time under Pressure but you must go forward in the game so you can hire more Mercs to help you and for that you need again more Mines and to get the most out of the Mines you need Citys and there loyialty. All what change is at the start of the game the Enemy come with Knifes and a some Boyscout after with Rambo and a Atomic Bomb :) so only the Fights become much more difficult

Sounds good, as tactical part is bit boring with Legion already.. there is onyl few of them at the time and all my mercs can kill at least one per turn one way or another at large distance.. and thing like overwatch setup eliminate whole groups efortlessly.

[Gladius Victorius]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Originally posted by Gladius Victorius:

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To Militia you dont need to use your Main Squad for it hire a very Cheap Merc and let him Train the Militia so your main Squad can go on even 1 Merc with no leadership can train them slower but ok enough.
And no the new Faction will do the same as the Legion that dont change you will not be the entire time under Pressure but you must go forward in the game so you can hire more Mercs to help you and for that you need again more Mines and to get the most out of the Mines you need Citys and there loyialty. All what change is at the start of the game the Enemy come with Knifes and a some Boyscout after with Rambo and a Atomic Bomb :) so only the Fights become much more difficult

Sounds good, as tactical part is bit boring with Legion already.. there is onyl few of them at the time and all my mercs can kill at least one per turn one way or another at large distance.. and thing like overwatch setup eliminate whole groups efortlessly.

Play the game Vanilla 1 Time when you after want to start again the Modders do real nice things there are some Mods that rise the difficult so much and make the Enemy intelligent that you reach some point where you say only what the hell why i dont play Vanilla :)

[Stone]

I was totally overrun after that battle, lost all mines and locations, All the trained militia dead. My A-team can defeat the Army squads but my B-team is killed if they encounter a full 20 man army group. I'd say wait a long time to do the refugee camp mission. It's cool that the event changes a lot of stuff, but for me it feels like starting over.

EDIT: I gamed it a bit by doing other stuff, but once I was closing on the Final camp, the Refugee camp is still triggered (didn't need to do the fight) but the army still comes and takes everything. This time I had 3+ million in the bank so felt safer.