M14 assault rifle ?

[Leto]

Is it only me who is bothered by the fact that the m14 is an assault rifle in the game?
I mean, it is still used today as a DMR, and the more advanced variants, the m21 and m25, are very popular with special units.
According to wiki, they are even being produced and used more today after the iraq and afganistan wars, when it became clear that a unit with a DMR like the m14 would be much more effective.
who is good enough at modding and makes a light sniper rifle out of it :) ?

[SirHawk]

M14 is an assault rifle at basis, yes. Only adjusted and modificated variants of M14 (inlcuding DMR variant) are used as a squad support precision rifle.

[Shuri-Sama]

if u dont like it how it is u just can change stats by your own with the mod editor.

[LotR[Henchman]]

In agreement with SirHawk, a lot of Assault Rifles are equipped better barrels, better optics and some slight changes and then get called DMR.
Just go ahead and look the wikipedia site on DMRs on the bottom and see how you find modified AUGs, FALs, G3s, M16s and so on...

So no... i'm not bothered by it.

[RPS 12324]

Those Battle Rifles can be used as makeshift sniper rifles so I don't see a problem. I often able to score sneak kills with both the M14 and the FAL even after the enemies have been alerted. The only thing they can't do which sniper rifles can is the Pin Down ability.

[CommandDork]

The editor further has it labeled as the M14SAW, which I assume to mean Squad Automatic Weapon.

[armbarchris]

A DMR is just what happens when you give an assault rifle to someone with decent trigger discipline.

In the game, a lot of guns straddle the line between sniper rifle and assault rifle, and there aren't perks that only affect "rifles" or whatever (only for shotguns and heavy weapons), so it really does't matter what it's tagged as.

[uncle nick]

Hopefully after the shot missing patch, if burst fire is able to catch other body parts, maybe the M14 will once again rise to the occasion?

In my gameplay, M14 is pretty much useless for me due to inadequate damage. I would only keep a M14 because of the under barrel grenade launcher. Otherwise, i much prefer the SMG/Sniper combo like Draco and Dragunov, you get best of both worlds, the Run&Gun and Sniper gameplay options. (It's Draco, not Krinkov, because of 7.62)

Ideally, for Run&Gun and Sniper combo, you'd prefer to have the Commando and PSG-1; but sadly depends on the loot drop RNGesus. The Commando can have a grenade launcher, whereas the Ak74u Draco does not.

The game devs did do a M14 sniper, it's the Gold Fever; but people didn't like the gameplay balance. Longer range, but no attachments whatsoever, no bullet magazine (single shot), so no burst fire option. Pretty sure someone already done a mod to fix Gold Fever.

[Leto]

I tried to mod this once, but no chance, well what the heck, there are weapon mods and there will certainly be new ones.

[Aldrakir]

I've found a lot of success with the M14 so far personally, granted I have also been playing on the easiest difficult to get a grip of the game so far and will be switching up the difficulty in a new playthrough, but yeah so far it's seeming good. Just switch the ammo types if you're lacking damage?

[orochiart]

Originally posted by Leto:

Is it only me who is bothered by the fact that the m14 is an assault rifle in the game?
who is good enough at modding and makes a light sniper rifle out of it :) ?

I'm not bothered. You also don't need a mod to make it into light sniper rifle. You only need to use weapon mods to upgrade it into that build to be a sniper rifle. (I'm only bothered with amount of positive modifiers I can attach to M14 when compared to other weapons. It is just unrealistic.)

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1084160/discussions/0/3880471632095601848/

[Herr Morlock]

Originally posted by uncle nick:

The game devs did do a M14 sniper, it's the Gold Fever; but people didn't like the gameplay balance. Longer range, but no attachments whatsoever, no bullet magazine (single shot), so no burst fire option. Pretty sure someone already done a mod to fix Gold Fever.

Actually, I really LOVE Gold Fever. I have used it with Mouse with big efficiency. It one shots most enemies, when you aim at their heads. So, you can kill one at almost any distance and reload in the same round, if you remaind stationary, of course.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Leto:

Is it only me who is bothered by the fact that the m14 is an assault rifle in the game?
I mean, it is still used today as a DMR, and the more advanced variants, the m21 and m25, are very popular with special units.
According to wiki, they are even being produced and used more today after the iraq and afganistan wars, when it became clear that a unit with a DMR like the m14 would be much more effective.
who is good enough at modding and makes a light sniper rifle out of it :) ?

its a *battle rifle*, not an assault rifle. And its used today as a DMR solely because it fires 7.62x51. Otherwise there's nothing special bout it as a DMR - which is just putting a scope on the gun. DMR's are not 'sniper' rifles, they're rifles for your fireteams designated DMR.

[whahappen]

Originally posted by Leto:

Is it only me who is bothered by the fact that the m14 is an assault rifle in the game?
I mean, it is still used today as a DMR, and the more advanced variants, the m21 and m25, are very popular with special units.
According to wiki, they are even being produced and used more today after the iraq and afganistan wars, when it became clear that a unit with a DMR like the m14 would be much more effective.
who is good enough at modding and makes a light sniper rifle out of it :) ?

Most people do not know the existance of DMR weapon class. Not knowing what it is, how it exists (in USA), what it means to the people, what the purpose is, why it exists, why it should exist, everything.
The information you can obtain in 5-10 minutes google is not enough to understand the topic from a weaponry perspective.

I have addressed the issue in two mods:
BCE Guns:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038472406&searchtext=bce+guns
BCE Guns Crafting System (for BCE):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029516593

These include the DMR style weapons:
M14 DMR
C7CT (556 DMR variant of the M16 rifle)
M110
SVDM
AUG9mm
Steyr AUG 556

Sure this is a very broad definition of DMR weapons and both AUG variants are still rather assault rifles but behave ingame like DMRs. The M110 is something between a DMR and a sniper rifle. SVDM is not really a DMR but behaves similarily.

The BCE Guns can be played standalone to make the M14 a new weapon in DMR style and have the original M14 slot be filled with the lesser rifle (M1A, still upgraded from original M14).

You can play this weapon overhaul without BCE Crafting Engine (not including M110 and AUG9mm) or with BCE Guns Crafting System adding even more guns and melee weapons.

Thats what I could come up with to have at least some fix for the topic. Hope it can do the trick for some.