Landsbach (spoilers)

[sooshon]

This has easily been my favorite fight so far. The game has been starting to feel a bit too easy in the middle part, maybe because I've been mostly taking it slow and methodically advancing, really looking forward \ hoping there are more and more tougher enemies like this going further east to really feel like we're putting those modded and heavy weapons to good use : )
What did you all pick for this quest? I fought it out with Siegfried's forces which lead to an all out brawl, especially with some guy from the Night Club moving in to attack at the same time. This is the time when JA really felt like an all out firefight, really particularly loved the layout design of this, standing ground in the mansion then moving out to the machinegun, so good job devs.

[sooshon]

Originally posted by Ichthyic:

Originally posted by Six Biomes:

i just put dr. q in the ring, so i got infinite attacks

ah. Flay has the same perk, and I also got infinite attacks. the end turn button NEVER appeared. gotta be a bug. anybody else get a serious "crocodile dundee" vibe from Flay? gotta be what they modeled him after.

Have you tried Scully yet? : )
(well i guess he's more steve irwin than the crocodile dundee from the movies)

[Robert J. Sullivan]

This thread helped me getting the quest right. Basically you have to gather enough clues (found in this thread) to get an XP drop for your mercs and a quest update that says something along the lines of "you have found the secret about diesel". After, go to Siegfried, tell him about Bounce, tell him you found out the secret of diesel, when he proposes you the mine and militia answer "we are going to put a stop to this".
If Bounce and his goons don't storm the place as soon as combat starts you missed something.

[Dre G Writer]

Originally posted by archmag:

I completed this quest choosing Siegfried.

Accepted a mission to get back diesel. Went to the club at night. Got a task to defeat two enemies in the ring. Won the first with Steroid easily. Tried to fight the second guy using Steroid ~10 times, lost every time. Tried once with Blood and won in one try. Got info on where you can find diesel and also suggestion to bring diesel to the club first instead of Siegfried. Got diesel, brought it to Siegfried, he and his army left. Fought with club members who got easily demolished mostly by Steroid using the stationary machine gun. Didn't get any achievements but easily got the mine and town (with no more club).

This the route that I went as well. I keep my word and dont like betraying others without due cause and I didn't find a cause.

[[ScrN]PooSH]

Steroid is a bad fighter. Despite super strength, his low agility and dexterity lead to bad melee accuracy and low AP. Steroid can make only two unarmed hits per turn, often missing both.

I used Wolf to defeat Bonecrusher on Mission Impossible. Wolf has 12AP = 3 aimed hits per turn, usually scoring all of them thanks to high dexterity. Every turn hit the neck, arms and balls to cause chocking, inaccurate, and suppression, respectively. Suppressed Bonecrusher can perform only two attacks. If he misses at least one, Wolf survives till the second turn, which is enough to finish Bonecrusher.

I guess Dr. Q should perform ever better. But I didn't hire him.


Regarding the mission:

Getting the Diesel Power achievement is the right solution to free people of Landsbach. Other options are leaving people for Nazi to use them as lab rats, or a drug dealer.

[Lightning]

Jeesh this fight is really something if you go the achievement way on Impossible

[Yuran]

There is one more clue, fuel tanker in the gran prix camp

[sooshon]

Originally posted by Lightning:

Jeesh this fight is really something if you go the achievement way on Impossible

not that hard if you get creative: you can molotov the staircase and secure your position upstairs in the house, or just completely blow up the stairs with explosives and force enemies to use up a lot of AP to come up to the 2nd floor by grabbing ledges, likely they won't have time to shoot on the same turn and you can stay out of sight of downstairs. the only danger is someone running up and unloading a shotgun blast in your face if you let enemies run upstairs to you, but once you secure the house you're all set.

[wboson]

I tried DrQ.
First I tried with random fight, used the Unconcious to see if and how it works, worked very well.
So I took on the big dude and the ability is greyed out(have to kill some1 in meanwhile). Wadahell. I´m out of combat and going to another 1 and it doesn´t work anymore?
So anyways DrQ should have Melee skills-higher defence, higher acc. Nope, not correct, gets dropped to the floor and 4 Wounds applied instantly.
I should treat wounds for 2D for this, oh wait, there are no Operations available in Landspach.
This game feels more and more like a deliberate waste of time(besides this mission, I failed both of MERCs also bc they were too stupid to take cover and got killed by running into (mortar)fire).

PS also tried to go back in big map and spend some time but it didn´t reset the ability.
I totally get it that in a combat the abilities can be reset on some conditions. But if I´m out of combat already and going into other- why is it still greyed out?

[GrimmReeper]

Originally posted by Vittrich:

Originally posted by KGB:

I did not do the outbreak myself. With above actions I got quest solved and cleared. Along with the achievement

we were able to solve it. he was missing the radio on 2nd floor across the street of the club, listening to the radio call will open up a new conversation with Siegfried.

So it is:

Talk to Siegfried about the stolen Diesel in Lansbach to start the Quest.
Either talk to Mole and give him 5000$ or fight Bonecrusher.
Recover Diesel

Clue: Diesel seeems to be a a street drug (Info from Bounce B13)
Clue: There is a fuel tanker that has tubes which lead away and disappear into the ground(B12)
Clue: Theres something unnatural about siegfried guards(B12 had to recruit MD although my IMP had more medical than him, MD recognized it and i could talk to Siegfried about it)
Clue: Siegfrieds Notes suggest he has been researchen human growth hormones(B12 Siegfrieds Table where he is sitting, Wisdom check)
Clue: A folder named Hormone Levels lists some of the fighters in the club(B13 upper floor of the club, hack device)
Clue: Siegfried wants Bonecrusher to join his fight of eliteguards(B12 Diary of Bonecrusher found as loot, no magnifying glass)
Breaking into the small hut right of the mine entry in B12(gave me info for B13 that there is a radio)
Use the radio acrosse the street of club on 2nd floor(B13, mechanical check)

Now you have a 3rd option when talking to Siegfried about the hormone diesel and this will trigger the Bounce attack and the Acievement after winning the fight.

Hopefully this will help save hours of time for some people. Cheers for the team effort guys.

Originally posted by bleach0:

Originally posted by DeusVult Joker:

How did you actually trigger Bounces Attack while you deny Siegfried the Diesel?
I found several clues but still the game says "diesel is still spreading" even if Bounce dies if you rat him and you kill Siegfried + his guys afterwards

This assumes that you have all of the criteria met beforehand. The dialog options that worked for me were:

• "Bounce took your Diesel*" --> S says "Is that so?..."
  
• "We found your Diesel" --> S says "As promised..."
  
• Three options here: 1) "It's yours*"; 2) "We know about your Enhanced Diesel*"; 3) "No. the deal's off*"
  
• If you choose "We know about your Enhanced Diesel*" --> S says "So, your investigative skills..." S offers you a militia as well. Your choices are "Good deal*" or "We are putting and[sic] end to this*"
  
  "We are putting an end to this*" triggered the attack by Bounce with a cutscene for me.

These two posts helped me figure this out in the clues I was missing and which dialog options to choose in final convo before fight. Just to add I didn't get this third option until I "found the secret to the Diesel" clue. Maybe not the exact wording but that's what did it for me. I now have the achievement for this.

[p.pikul.94]

In my case I did beat Bounce's champion with Blood, easily. Then I went and collected the diesel. Came back and refused Bounce's unrefusable offer to take down Siegfried together, which of course triggered a fight. It was a close quarter one, but I've had Dr. Q and Blood on my side, both armed with as many knives as they could carry and they dispersed the crowd easily. After that I brought the Diesel to Siegfried, who gladly handed over the Drachenberg mine and all was good. Or at least so I thought, 'cause the precious Diesel turned out to be a combat stim and in the endgame it turned out that the old Nazi used it to create an army of über-soldiers, which miss la Fontaine didn't really like.

[ptv]

I tried giving the Diesel to Bounce. Got PSG1 and its AP ammo from him and fought together against the Super Soldiers in the mine.