C4 and Dynamite

[Dr.Acula]

Has anyone been able to properly utilize C4 or dynamite?

I've tried it a few times but it always appears to be completely useless to me. During combat if I throw dynamite/C4 with proximity sensors or timers enemies walk around it or just stay to far away for it to make any difference.

The remote detonators might be more useful but even there I would prefer grenades over the dynamite and C4 as I can do the same but get the result instantly with 4AP instead of having to use the throwing plus the activation.

Is there anything useful outside of combat for dynamite/C4 or am I missing something in combat?

[Mechanique]

The only time I used it for actual combat is in Booboo/Luigi fight, you can safely mine your enemies before starting the fight and watch them explode on first turn. One fun side effect I found is that you can blow up guards in that sector during the standoff freely, they won't attack you.

I also would assume you can place proxy or remote explosive in sector entrances during the post-Refugee Camp event, but I never tried that because I had enough shaped charges to evaporate the battalion worth of troops.

[Rhapsody]

C4 and dynamite are best utilized for making other explosives like hand grenades out of them.

PETN on the other hand is not used for any such crafting. I just came out of Landsbach after remote-bombing 3 of the guards, so yeah, they are useful. Time-detonated PETN (or C4 if you really need it) can also be useful to punch holes into buildings like those at the Good Place.

[[NcK]MasterShake|CM]

Best to break them down and use them for other fun stuff. Dynamite I believe goes to tossed grenades and the C4 goes to 40mm grenade rounds I believe.

[['w']]

Watched an enemy run close to a proximity c4 charge, camera switched to merc and back again, enemy now 9 tiles further towards me, no idea how he didn't trigger it.

mortars are also so funny, most of the time I hit nothing, guess I have to blast 2 at once.

on the other hand those 40mm grenade launchers kill everything, hardly ever miss, especially when I run 2-3 mercs with them.

[Rhapsody]

Proximity detonators may only ever be useful in close quarters and preferably when you already know which paths the enemy is likely to take. I don't bother using them.

[Dr.Acula]

Originally posted by |wilb|:

on the other hand those 40mm grenade launchers kill everything, hardly ever miss, especially when I run 2-3 mercs with them.

I used mortars with gas in the fight against the major in his camp. There is a main ramp where most enemies were coming from and I basically dropped a few gas shells there which then caused them to run through it and get 30 choke damage on the next turn.

But yes mortars are also limited in terms of usability. You can use it to force enemies out of their defense positions but not much more.

[['w']]

Originally posted by Dr.Acula:

Originally posted by |wilb|:

on the other hand those 40mm grenade launchers kill everything, hardly ever miss, especially when I run 2-3 mercs with them.

I used mortars with gas in the fight against the major in his camp. There is a main ramp where most enemies were coming from and I basically dropped a few gas shells there which then caused them to run through it and get 30 choke damage on the next turn.

But yes mortars are also limited in terms of usability. You can use it to force enemies out of their defense positions but not much more.

okay yes, gas is better I guess, I threw some gas cans, for the hyenas and lobbed 2 frag grenades with wolf into the machine gun nest

[uncle nick]

How do i use the remote detonator? Can't seem to get Barry to combine it with any of explosives. What am i missing?

[Dr.Acula]

Originally posted by uncle nick:

How do i use the remote detonator? Can't seem to get Barry to combine it with any of explosives. What am i missing?

There is 3 pieces involved.

You have the C4, the remote detonator and the remote. You have to combine the C4 with the remote detonator. You then equip the C4 and throw it like a grenade.

Afterwards the merc with the remote in the inventory can trigger the C4.