Not a Paper Mario fan at all. (never played them) Will I get anything out of Bug Fables?

[Zax]

I tried Googling this and all I got was "If YoU'r A pAPeR mARIo fAn YOu GotTA PLaY tHIS" seriously got annoying to read after the 19th time.

[Null Winter]

It's a decent little RPG. The story isn't groundbreaking and the characters are moderately entertaining. It's about as lighthearted as the series it's inspired by, so if you're looking for a break from gritty anti-heroes and self-aware scrub protagonists, then it's a nice breath of fresh air.

Also, how do you know you're not a fan of something if you've never played it? If you hated the mere idea of Paper Mario so much, then you're probably not going to like this considering that it plays similarly to the older (and better) ones.

[Zax]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

It's a decent little RPG. The story isn't groundbreaking and the characters are moderately entertaining. It's about as lighthearted as the series it's inspired by, so if you're looking for a break from gritty anti-heroes and self-aware scrub protagonists, then it's a nice breath of fresh air.

Also, how do you know you're not a fan of something if you've never played it? If you hated the mere idea of Paper Mario so much, then you're probably not going to like this considering that it plays similarly to the older (and better) ones.

how can you hate something having never played it? never said I hated them, it's just that I was looking for the answer to a specific question and kept getting the literal exact opposite answer, everywhere...that's all

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Zax:

Originally posted by Null Winter:

It's a decent little RPG. The story isn't groundbreaking and the characters are moderately entertaining. It's about as lighthearted as the series it's inspired by, so if you're looking for a break from gritty anti-heroes and self-aware scrub protagonists, then it's a nice breath of fresh air.

Also, how do you know you're not a fan of something if you've never played it? If you hated the mere idea of Paper Mario so much, then you're probably not going to like this considering that it plays similarly to the older (and better) ones.

how can you hate something having never played it? never said I hated them, it's just that I was looking for the answer to a specific question and kept getting the literal exact opposite answer, everywhere...that's all

"Not a Paper Mario fan at all". This combined with your expressed frustration at all the reviews making the fair comparison to Paper Mario implies disdain; words have meaning and inherent implications, mate.

Regardless, if you like simple turn-based RPGs, then you might like this. If not, then Steam has the "no questions asked" refund within a decent time window.

[Aldelaro5]

The game is amazing as an rpg in general regardless if you played pm or not. In fact, I would even argue it's the best way to get introduced to it.

It's just that it's harder for me to convince people that the game is THIS good because I basically have to explain why I loved pm and why this game does it so well, but I will try:

It has a very simplistic style that's easy to get into, but says a lot when you dig deep into it. This game is no exception like it has a simple cute artstyle, simple ost which I love and the amount of content you get out of its price could be qualified as stealing tbh. It's worth WAY WAY more than its price. The mechanics are also p engaging for a turn based rpg mainly because of the action commands, but also because this game has a decent (not perfect) balance that incentivise you to think a lot when making your moves. It even offers a hard mode if you are into this!

And imo, the HIGHLIGHT of this game is the charm: the main cast have just amazing dialogues and the whole game too. There are several scenes that makes me react even after watching them a couple times.

None of these matter if you played pm or not, it's just an incredibly solid RPG. The reason you see a lot of comparison with pm is because if someone has played pm, they already have p good expectations when getting into this game and EVEN WITH THESE, it still manages to blow people's mind.

It's just easier to convince people, but there's no reasons to think that not having played pm will make you dislike this game. if you PLAYED but DID NOT LIKE pm, then I would reconsider, same if you don't like rpg in general (if you aren't a fan of turn based...I would still consider because it's more engaging than your typical one).

Hopefully that answers your question :)

[Zax]

Originally posted by Aldelaro5:

The game is amazing as an rpg in general regardless if you played pm or not. In fact, I would even argue it's the best way to get introduced to it.

It's just that it's harder for me to convince people that the game is THIS good because I basically have to explain why I loved pm and why this game does it so well, but I will try:

It has a very simplistic style that's easy to get into, but says a lot when you dig deep into it. This game is no exception like it has a simple cute artstyle, simple ost which I love and the amount of content you get out of its price could be qualified as stealing tbh. It's worth WAY WAY more than its price. The mechanics are also p engaging for a turn based rpg mainly because of the action commands, but also because this game has a decent (not perfect) balance that incentivise you to think a lot when making your moves. It even offers a hard mode if you are into this!

And imo, the HIGHLIGHT of this game is the charm: the main cast have just amazing dialogues and the whole game too. There are several scenes that makes me react even after watching them a couple times.

None of these matter if you played pm or not, it's just an incredibly solid RPG. The reason you see a lot of comparison with pm is because if someone has played pm, they already have p good expectations when getting into this game and EVEN WITH THESE, it still manages to blow people's mind.

It's just easier to convince people, but there's no reasons to think that not having played pm will make you dislike this game. if you PLAYED but DID NOT LIKE pm, then I would reconsider, same if you don't like rpg in general (if you aren't a fan of turn based...I would still consider because it's more engaging than your typical one).

Hopefully that answers your question :)

Wow! so let me say the reason I even asked having never played paper mario is because I saw a screenshot and was instantly like, "the colour it...burns so good." and so I asked because I just assumed this would be like, very derivative and like, I guess reference what it's based on and wanted to know if I would even get it...but from what You've said it doesn't seem like it's trying to do that at all which is good for someone like me.

What I mean is, I didn't want it to be a case where it was like:

"hey look gamers, this is like that thing you love isn't that cool!??"
or, "hey isn't this story beat similar to those games you like? Isn't that cool!!??"
or even, "hey look at your paty members and attack animation, don't those remind of that game you love? Isn't that cooooooool?!!

you could see why that would get annoying for a someone like me. "Okay cool we get it" you know? especially when they it very obvious and in your face.

[Aldelaro5]

Originally posted by Zax:

Originally posted by Aldelaro5:

The game is amazing as an rpg in general regardless if you played pm or not. In fact, I would even argue it's the best way to get introduced to it.

It's just that it's harder for me to convince people that the game is THIS good because I basically have to explain why I loved pm and why this game does it so well, but I will try:

It has a very simplistic style that's easy to get into, but says a lot when you dig deep into it. This game is no exception like it has a simple cute artstyle, simple ost which I love and the amount of content you get out of its price could be qualified as stealing tbh. It's worth WAY WAY more than its price. The mechanics are also p engaging for a turn based rpg mainly because of the action commands, but also because this game has a decent (not perfect) balance that incentivise you to think a lot when making your moves. It even offers a hard mode if you are into this!

And imo, the HIGHLIGHT of this game is the charm: the main cast have just amazing dialogues and the whole game too. There are several scenes that makes me react even after watching them a couple times.

None of these matter if you played pm or not, it's just an incredibly solid RPG. The reason you see a lot of comparison with pm is because if someone has played pm, they already have p good expectations when getting into this game and EVEN WITH THESE, it still manages to blow people's mind.

It's just easier to convince people, but there's no reasons to think that not having played pm will make you dislike this game. if you PLAYED but DID NOT LIKE pm, then I would reconsider, same if you don't like rpg in general (if you aren't a fan of turn based...I would still consider because it's more engaging than your typical one).

Hopefully that answers your question :)

Wow! so let me say the reason I even asked having never played paper mario is because I saw a screenshot and was instantly like, "the colour it...burns so good." and so I asked because I just assumed this would be like, very derivative and like, I guess reference what it's based on and wanted to know if I would even get it...but from what You've said it doesn't seem like it's trying to do that at all which is good for someone like me.

What I mean is, I didn't want it to be a case where it was like:

"hey look gamers, this is like that thing you love isn't that cool!??"
or, "hey isn't this story beat similar to those games you like? Isn't that cool!!??"
or even, "hey look at your paty members and attack animation, don't those remind of that game you love? Isn't that cooooooool?!!

you could see why that would get annoying for a someone like me. "Okay cool we get it" you know? especially when they it very obvious and in your face.

This game tbf wrongly got accused by being a "ripoff", but the reality is most people I seen say this haven't actually played it and those that do usually properly say that no...it's just an inspiration and it ends there.

There's DEFINITELY stuff you will recognize if you play pm, but tbf, it's really just a love letter to it and not really its reason to exist. I love pm a lot, but if I had never played pm and I had played this, I would come to the same conclusion (except I would be more impressed because I wouldn't have seen this style before).

The reason people are so enticed to say this and not the other part is because it's easier to convince people who played pm, but also because this game released in an interesting timing where the pm series did very controversial changes (which I personally disagree to most of them). So a lot of people (and tbf, they aren't really wrong of doing this) just say the pm part (that it's the pm game you want to play), but don't necessarily reflect back on WHY you should even consider a pm style game regardless if you played pm.

Also, this game is underknown so yeah.... (you have no idea the amount of people I see that played this game and be like....why tf did I not heard about it before? because it blows their mind).

[Zax]

Originally posted by Aldelaro5:

Originally posted by Zax:

Wow! so let me say the reason I even asked having never played paper mario is because I saw a screenshot and was instantly like, "the colour it...burns so good." and so I asked because I just assumed this would be like, very derivative and like, I guess reference what it's based on and wanted to know if I would even get it...but from what You've said it doesn't seem like it's trying to do that at all which is good for someone like me.

What I mean is, I didn't want it to be a case where it was like:

"hey look gamers, this is like that thing you love isn't that cool!??"
or, "hey isn't this story beat similar to those games you like? Isn't that cool!!??"
or even, "hey look at your paty members and attack animation, don't those remind of that game you love? Isn't that cooooooool?!!

you could see why that would get annoying for a someone like me. "Okay cool we get it" you know? especially when they it very obvious and in your face.

This game tbf wrongly got accused by being a "ripoff", but the reality is most people I seen say this haven't actually played it and those that do usually properly say that no...it's just an inspiration and it ends there.

There's DEFINITELY stuff you will recognize if you play pm, but tbf, it's really just a love letter to it and not really its reason to exist. I love pm a lot, but if I had never played pm and I had played this, I would come to the same conclusion (except I would be more impressed because I wouldn't have seen this style before).

The reason people are so enticed to say this and not the other part is because it's easier to convince people who played pm, but also because this game released in an interesting timing where the pm series did very controversial changes (which I personally disagree to most of them). So a lot of people (and tbf, they aren't really wrong of doing this) just say the pm part (that it's the pm game you want to play), but don't necessarily reflect back on WHY you should even consider a pm style game regardless if you played pm.

Also, this game is underknown so yeah.... (you have no idea the amount of people I see that played this game and be like....why tf did I not heard about it before? because it blows their mind).

I've been convinced. Thank you for your help!

[Lightjolly]

Originally posted by Aldelaro5:

In fact, I would even argue it's the best way to get introduced to it.

Only that if you play a PM game after playing BF, it's going to feel more like a step down in most ways, especially the combat and difficulty, but nonetheless it will still be a great experience, the first two at least

[morimoto]

Sure. I hadn't heard of Paper Mario until I started playing this game and I loved it.

[Aldelaro5]

Originally posted by Lightjolly:

Originally posted by Aldelaro5:

In fact, I would even argue it's the best way to get introduced to it.

Only that if you play a PM game after playing BF, it's going to feel more like a step down in most ways, especially the combat and difficulty, but nonetheless it will still be a great experience, the first two at least

Maybe, but I see it as a way to experience what inspired this game

Which is by itself a good thing to do (also because ttyd is amazing despite its flaws)

[MrUnbecoming]

Originally posted by Zax:

I've been convinced. Thank you for your help!

You should update us if you're enjoying it, very curious how someone that hasn't played the Paper Mario games finds it. I have played all the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi RPGs, and I love those series so I found this to be very at home for me.

[Aldelaro5]

Originally posted by MrUnbecoming:

Originally posted by Zax:

I've been convinced. Thank you for your help!

You should update us if you're enjoying it, very curious how someone that hasn't played the Paper Mario games finds it. I have played all the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi RPGs, and I love those series so I found this to be very at home for me.

Well tbf, if you loved pm, trying this game is a no brainer because you'd definitely love it.

The issue is it's harder to sell the game for people who HAVE NOT played it, but I think it can be done if people adds context to it which is unfortunately not done much :(

[MrUnbecoming]

Originally posted by Aldelaro5:

Well tbf, if you loved pm, trying this game is a no brainer because you'd definitely love it.

The issue is it's harder to sell the game for people who HAVE NOT played it, but I think it can be done if people adds context to it which is unfortunately not done much :(

Yeah, but it wasn't really a no-brainer for me because I wasn't sure how GOOD it actually was. Like, yeah it's similar to Paper Mario, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's good. And it is good, but it's hard to explain why to people that haven't played PM.

[Zax]

Originally posted by MrUnbecoming:

Originally posted by Zax:

I've been convinced. Thank you for your help!

You should update us if you're enjoying it, very curious how someone that hasn't played the Paper Mario games finds it. I have played all the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi RPGs, and I love those series so I found this to be very at home for me.

Keep tabs on this thread. 'cuz I'll be sure to post what I think when I'm done. Just gotta finish Yakuza 0 first. (really close to done that)

[MrUnbecoming]

Originally posted by Zax:

Keep tabs on this thread. 'cuz I'll be sure to post what I think when I'm done. Just gotta finish Yakuza 0 first. (really close to done that)

cool sounds good. I'm about 16 hours in, probably 2/3 done