BUG - Low starting fuel, doesnt reach the complete race

[Excorpion]

Im running the MY TEAM mode, and we are racing now on Mónaco.

But idk what is happening, my fuel doesnt reach the complete race.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2599653237

[Nuripingaa]

so baaaaad

[Excorpion]

Keeps happening, but idk why.

[KRON]

I wonder if you completed the race strategy practice program with using lean fuel mix.
Or, taking a second look - rich fuel mix.

[Excorpion]

Originally posted by KRON:

I wonder if you completed the race strategy practice program with using lean fuel mix.
Or, taking a second look - rich fuel mix.

I did, but it doesnt make sense, cause it doesnt reach the end of the race.
Max load is 60.6 and its at maximum, but only says 33.9 laps.

[Shia Luck]

So If you ran the strategy program on rich fuel the game is telling you that you cannot do that all race, no? What is so hard about that to understand?

Run the strategy program on standard fuel and you get a realistic data point of how many laps you can do. Then you can adjust it depending on whether you want to do some lean laps and fuel save to gain time by carrying less fuel all race or lots of rich laps etc for overtaking or something, no?

IRL, every team underfuels their car and requires their drivers to conserve at some point rather than carry around extra fuel. One safety car saves so much fuel.

AKA, You cannot just stay in rich all the time. Open the temp panel and you will see how it affects your engine overheating and when it is yellow you are going slower than you could, simply due to overheating.
You need to cool it somehow. Stay out of dirty air, lift and coast, use less fuel modes, and then you will go faster for less fuel. :)

Have fun :)

[Excorpion]

Originally posted by Shia Luck:

SO... what im getting here is...
THE MAX FUEL CAPACITY ON THE CAR IS LOWER CAUSE I RAN A PROGRAM ???
The MAX fuel capacity should always be the same, cause ITS A FREAKING CAR WITH A FIXED FUEL TANK !!!!

As a quick google search says...
1. However, this space-saving and safety-driven design can hold a whopping 30 gallons, or 110 liters or kilograms of fuel, the maximum allowed for a race. -> https://f1chronicle.com/formula-1-fuel-tank-safety-formula-1-technology/
2. From 2019 F1 cars can use up to 110 kilograms of fuel per race which is an increase of five kilograms from the previous year in order to allow the drivers to push more of the time. -> https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-much-fuel-does-a-formula-1-car-use-f1-nascar-more-compared-4980266/4980266/
3. A Formula 1 car’s fuel capacity is 110 kilograms. This fuel load has to last the car for the entirety of the race which is 305km (190 miles). ->https://flowracers.com/blog/fuel-capacity-formula-1-car/

IF i ran the programm at max. The game shouldnt cap the max fuel capacity, instead, IT should predict HOW MUCH fuel im going to use in X number of laps.

IF i ran the program low, the MAX FUEL CAPACITY shouldnt change.
The game just has to predict the fuel that im going to use in X number of laps.

If i use MORE fuel, my car is going to be heavier, and my car, slower.
if i use less fuel, my car should be lighter, and faster.
BUT if i use less than what I NEED for the race... i CANT complete the race, and im DNF.

[KRON]

Originally posted by Excorpion:

Originally posted by KRON:

I wonder if you completed the race strategy practice program with using lean fuel mix.
Or, taking a second look - rich fuel mix.

I did, but it doesnt make sense, cause it doesnt reach the end of the race.
Max load is 60.6 and its at maximum, but only says 33.9 laps.

If you run the practice program it sets the fuel load according to the average fuel consumption during the practice program. That's why you do the practice program in the first place, no? To get the feel of what to except in the race? Which means that if you run it in rich mix you'll get overloaded with fuel and if you run the lean mix you get underfueled.
So, I suggest just sticking with standard mix for this practice program.
Not to mention that running the rich fuel mix for the whole race isn't healthy for the engine, because rich mix gives you more engine temperature, and if the engine is overheated you will lose power.

Also, your fuel capacity doesn't change according to the practice program. It's determined by race distance you chose before starting the session. From the screenshot you provided I can tell it's Monaco race at 50% distance. 50% distance means 50% fuel load, which is you're seeing the limit between 40.6 and 60.6kg.
That is done because there's not only the limit of the max fuel load, but also the limit of average fuel consumption per lap so that you physically couldn't complete the whole race in rich mix only.

[Shia Luck]

Originally posted by Excorpion:

Originally posted by Shia Luck:

SO... what im getting here is...
THE MAX FUEL CAPACITY ON THE CAR IS LOWER CAUSE I RAN A PROGRAM ???

I did not say anything of the sort. Try re reading. Not once did I mention the max fuel capacity of the car. I talked about how much fuel YOU are using. Everyone else can finish races with that amount of fuel so the problem lies with you, no?

Originally posted by Excorpion:

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3. A Formula 1 car’s fuel capacity is 110 kilograms. This fuel load has to last the car for the entirety of the race which is 305km (190 miles). ->https://flowracers.com/blog/fuel-capacity-formula-1-car/

Therefore you must manage your fuel use so that the 110Kg (Or however much you choose to run with) is enough for YOU to finish the race.

Perhaps in Monaco, which is a much shorter race than standard, you could run in rich all race if you wanted to actually go slower and destroy your engine thru thermal degradation, I don't know, I have never been stupid enough to drive the car that way.

The point remains tho, that if you run the fuel program in rich you teach the game that is your normal driving style and so it will inform you you won't be able to finish most races even on max fuel. YOU have to adjust YOUR driving style so that you have enough fuel. Lift and coast into corners, run in standard fuel most of the time or lean when you can but most importantly, do the fuel program in standard mode so you get an accurate data point.

Have fun :)

[Excorpion]

Originally posted by KRON:

SO. If for Monaco, doesnt matter that i load 60.6kg cause if i ran the entire race on low or high i should be able to end the race to the finish ???

[KRON]

Originally posted by Excorpion:

Originally posted by KRON:

SO. If for Monaco, doesnt matter that i load 60.6kg cause if i ran the entire race on low or high i should be able to end the race to the finish ???

Yes, if you change the fuel mix to standard or lean, you'll be fine.