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Gwashy5 Aug 12, 2020 @ 7:30am
AI difficulty
Im new to F1 and been using the casual racing mode in my team it seems like my new team mate races a perfect lap during races because he breaks the lap record everytime it makes the game boring there is no chance of catching up to the AI if it is ahead of you can this be fixed somehow?
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Always Raining Aug 12, 2020 @ 9:16am 
That sounds strange. I'm on early season 3 and my teammate is 90 rated and haven't won a race yet. What settings are you using?
When his contract expires you could always hire someone else that have a lower rating.
Dreagon Aug 12, 2020 @ 9:29am 
It can be fixed by practicing or lowering the difficulty. But I can't imagine the AI setting fastest laps unless you're a few seasons into the game and you have a good car and a good team mate.
Gwashy5 Aug 12, 2020 @ 11:40am 
i do have a good car and my team mate is rated 96 i just use default settings in the casual mode with racing line on corners but i will keep adjusting until i find acceptable level. other forums like CM suggest changing AI difficulty each race but i think that takes away the possibility of skill growth because you change AI to suit your weaknesses

Always Raining Aug 12, 2020 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Gwashy5:
i do have a good car and my team mate is rated 96 i just use default settings in the casual mode with racing line on corners but i will keep adjusting until i find acceptable level. other forums like CM suggest changing AI difficulty each race but i think that takes away the possibility of skill growth because you change AI to suit your weaknesses
It's a fair suggestion because the AI is pretty unbalanced. It's not about your weaknesses it's about the AI taking corners like robots. I finished top 5 in France and Austria then the next race in Hungary I didn't stand a chance because the track have so many tricky corners and the AI was driving like on rails.
Gwashy5 Aug 12, 2020 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Liasos:
Originally posted by Gwashy5:
i do have a good car and my team mate is rated 96 i just use default settings in the casual mode with racing line on corners but i will keep adjusting until i find acceptable level. other forums like CM suggest changing AI difficulty each race but i think that takes away the possibility of skill growth because you change AI to suit your weaknesses
It's a fair suggestion because the AI is pretty unbalanced. It's not about your weaknesses it's about the AI taking corners like robots. I finished top 5 in France and Austria then the next race in Hungary I didn't stand a chance because the track have so many tricky corners and the AI was driving like on rails.

exactly when AI takes corners its like you said on rails hopefully they fix it in a patch soon
Maya-Neko Aug 12, 2020 @ 1:13pm 
Rail-AI is a standard technique for Racing games. It's way easier to simulate on one hand and easier to program as well on the other hand.

And the players wouldn't even see any difference anyway, as even a fully simulated AI would be aware of the cars limits at any time and would therefore know, how to always stick to specific lines, especially when it comes to preventing crashes with humans involved.
Gwashy5 Aug 13, 2020 @ 1:21am 
I get you Maya-Neko but we cant have AI going through a corner at full throttle but its impossible for the player to do so but yeah maybe the technology has its limits there
Dreagon Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by Gwashy5:
I get you Maya-Neko but we cant have AI going through a corner at full throttle but its impossible for the player to do so but yeah maybe the technology has its limits there
This doesn't happen. As long as you have the same car you can do the same. But it might require the right angle and turn in point.
bjornvermeulen4 Aug 13, 2020 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by Dreagon:
Originally posted by Gwashy5:
I get you Maya-Neko but we cant have AI going through a corner at full throttle but its impossible for the player to do so but yeah maybe the technology has its limits there
This doesn't happen. As long as you have the same car you can do the same. But it might require the right angle and turn in point.

I do believe the ai has an advantage in some corners and a relative disadvantage in others. The former mostly being slow corners and the latter being the fast ones. China, bahrain, france, belgium etc are relatively easy while monaco is extremely hard. In monaco i literally cant take the hairpin when in a train because the car just understeers so i have to leave a gap to be able to maintain some speed.

That being said i think the difficulty is pretty consistent apart from monaco my team has been a steady increase in difficulty on average 1 point every 1 to 2 races. Ai lack of smarts for adapting to changing weather causing podiums though that i shouldnt be getting
Maya-Neko Aug 13, 2020 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by bjornvermeulen4:
I do believe the ai has an advantage in some corners and a relative disadvantage in others. The former mostly being slow corners and the latter being the fast ones. China, bahrain, france, belgium etc are relatively easy while monaco is extremely hard. In monaco i literally cant take the hairpin when in a train because the car just understeers so i have to leave a gap to be able to maintain some speed.

That being said i think the difficulty is pretty consistent apart from monaco my team has been a steady increase in difficulty on average 1 point every 1 to 2 races. Ai lack of smarts for adapting to changing weather causing podiums though that i shouldnt be getting

The ideal lines are based on real life data. The AI (set on the reference difficulty) roughly takes the corners like real F1 drivers would take them.

But you as a human doesn't driver real F1 cars, but just play a game. It's quite easy to exploit the game physics, as the tracks and the cars behaviour doesn't fully match the real life. Therefore you can easily build setups, that work better overall for the track you're racing on, but might be a littlebit off when driving against the AI.

Some players for example focus only on high speed corners and straights, while others concentrate on low speed corners. If the AI cars drive inbetween those extremes, then it's no surprise, that you'll feel the AIs be slow on some parts of the track and unbeatable on other parts in dependence of your setup and your driving style.
Last edited by Maya-Neko; Aug 13, 2020 @ 10:10am
Neo King Arthur Aug 13, 2020 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by bjornvermeulen4:
Ai lack of smarts for adapting to changing weather causing podiums though that i shouldnt be getting

Just like in real life wet races then? Hahaha.
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