Why no VR Support in a 2020 racing game ?

[PlankGas]

Do the F1 2020 game devs read the Steam forums ? Have you driven a racing game with VR yet, no ? Once you have tried racing sims with VR there is no going back again ever. There are alternatives to F1 series and with VR support, most notably Project Cars 1 & Project Cars 2. What's the deal here, why no VR support ?

[Fluid Druid]

PlankGas の投稿を引用：

Thank you to all who responded. With only 1,4% of Steam gamers with Vr itś atiuny niche market. Admittedly I haven bought the F1 202, I was responding after viewing Worth a Buy's Youtube review where he roasted CodeMasters for the lack of VR support.

I like worthabuys channel, he's a funny guy, but he don't know a great deal about Racing games! hell he gave Grid a big thumbs up and its garbage. He voted up PC 2 and it has the worst indian file A.I. in the history of sim racing games, not to mention the terrible handling physics of 80% of the cars in that game. The 1.4% VR user stat says it all, you need look no further as to why its not been implemented, common sense decision by the devs.

[zeogamer2x18]

And please don`t forget that the Engine of f1 2020 isn´t the newest one it`s from 2016? i think so you can`t just try to implement VR in an Graphics Enginge it`s not Designed for. I think that it`s getting a VR Support when Codemasters make a new Engine for this Game which i belive will happen 2022 when the F1 gets the new Regulations on the cars and rules and all and the new Consoles.

[Smegmatron]

FYI, Steams hardware survey stats for VR are not accurate. It will not detect my Rift unless it's turned on. Plus, a higher percentage of players will have VR when you compare those who play racing games verses general gamers.

[PlankGas]

Smegmatron の投稿を引用：

It will not detect my Rift unless it's turned on.

True.
I used to play VR games only. That is, until my 5 year young daughter dropped my headset causing left display to die. Currently saving up for a replacement.

[Washed Cube]

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Berno の投稿を引用：

Well maybe there was no going back for you but I own VR and don't even use it.
You have to realise its not for everyone in fact hardly anybody uses it.
The latest Steam hardware survey:
Steam users with VR Headsets 1.67%

The real money is made on console so that's where their focus is what do you expect a business to do? Of course they focus their efforts on gamepad playability and graphics.

In Dirty Rally its just you and the scenery F1 has up to 21 cars as well so it is a lot more intensive. Given the AI in pCars is rubbish I wouldn't be surprised it uses a lot less CPU and can be run in VR.

Assetto Corsa Competizione : VR available, much more stuff on screen

iRacing : online races only -> VR support desspite there is up to 64 cars on the same track, all are PLAYERS (so latency is a very important point)

rFactor 2 : VR support is not only here but it reaches "almost perfection" support. rFactor 2 is very intensive computing simulation.

Automobilista 1 & 2 : VR support...

Should I continue with flight sims that are WAY more CPU / GPU intensive than F1 2020 and that support VR ? I'm sorry but facts are proving you wrong, graphics have nothing to do here, it is a clear choice not to use VR, F1 series game are just limited ports of console games to PC, no mouse support even in menu (SERIOUSLY !!!!!) is the blatant example of this lazzyness, they only focus on consoles, good thing for console users, PC users should have to wait a real PC F1 simulation, Codemaster is not able or just doesn't want to make any effort for PC.

Those same games are nowhere as GPU intensive as F1 2020 can be

[Vomit Heart]

Its never going to be mainstream ,like 3d tv its a fad

[AoD_lexandro]

Vomit Heart の投稿を引用：

Its never going to be mainstream ,like 3d tv its a fad

^this.

[PlankGas]

A racing sim without VR support? Codemasters’ target demographic for this game is most probably arcade console/couch players. People that make VR out as a fad have obviously not tried it, or got motion sick and decided to throw the baby out with the bathwater. And that is fine, if you are not into VR it’s your choice and your enjoy gaming in another way.
For those of us that want VR support (me included) There are plenty of other excellent racing sims with VR support. Project CARS in VR with sound is incredible, the car sounds and realism just can not be reproduced on a flat screen monitor.

[AoD_lexandro]

VR is a fad, and nothing but a fad. You are forgetting that headset design itself is decades old, it is not new technology or even revolutionary. The first headset system "Sword of Damocles" is from 1968. It has had all that time to become "mainstream". It never has and it never will for one simple reason; People do not want to wear headset guff just to view an image of something. It is cumbersome, tiring, and can cause long term eye sight damage.

You may be happy doing so, and you have games that cater to your choice. So why do you expect EVERY game to cater to you specifically, even when it is not actually required nor even cost beneficial? And also trying to insinuate that anyone not using VR is not "as capable" a racer or is somehow inferior for not doing so is just hilarious. Especially when you look at an E-sports setup.

[Smegmatron]

If VR is a fad, then why is HTC, Oculus, Valve, Pimax, HP, Samsung, etc. all coming out with newer and better headsets every few years?

[AoD_lexandro]

Smegmatron の投稿を引用：

If VR is a fad, then why is HTC, Oculus, Valve, Pimax, HP, Samsung, etc. all coming out with newer and better headsets every few years?

Money. That's why. Just because something is a fad doesn't make it unprofitable in the short term. It just means it has no real long term future, as it wont become mainstream. It is also a way for them to flog non touch screen displays that are abundant in supply.

Do not be fooled by the "hype". The majority of gamer's simply do not want to wear junk on their heads to play games. There was a greater uptake of 3D TV displays and all major (and many minor) manufacturers got in on the act. 10 years later and none of them are making 3D TV's anymore.

In 10 years time, lots of games will still not support VR. And the number of games that do support it will dwindle to near zero (if not zero completely). You can quote me on that.

[hsf_]

AoD_lexandro の投稿を引用：

Smegmatron の投稿を引用：

If VR is a fad, then why is HTC, Oculus, Valve, Pimax, HP, Samsung, etc. all coming out with newer and better headsets every few years?

Money. That's why. Just because something is a fad doesn't make it unprofitable in the short term. It just means it has no real long term future, as it wont become mainstream. It is also a way for them to flog non touch screen displays that are abundant in supply.

Do not be fooled by the "hype". The majority of gamer's simply do not want to wear junk on their heads to play games. There was a greater uptake of 3D TV displays and all major (and many minor) manufacturers got in on the act. 10 years later and none of them are making 3D TV's anymore.

In 10 years time, lots of games will still not support VR. And the number of games that do support it will dwindle to near zero (if not zero completely). You can quote me on that.

If VR headsets weren't so expensive for a good one, they'd be far more popular. However, me personally am not interested in VR, if they were cheaper I would still buy one though as games like Half Life: Alyx I really wanted to play(big half life fan).