Potential Kickstarter Scam warning!

[Turel]

Sid alpha's new video showing some light on this subject
https://youtu.be/Ns8gTWJIOQQ

[TheTrueFinalBoss]

Came here just to say something about this. This company has zero right to withhold payment for services rendered. This is good enough to not purchase this game even if it were released. Especially as they have already said they are going bankrupt. And what was that about 'the companies privacy'. Companies are not people. Do companies even have 'privacy'?

[Khor]

The video has a pretty negative tone, starts with some weird and uninformed accusations and then jumps to some nasty conclusions real fast.
(Dlcs unlock the cards which then the player will get in a couple of days of normal playing, how`s that a money grab compared to the usual Booster Pack scam?)

If Abrakam is already struggling, gratuitous bad publicity can be the nail in the coffin, i get why the got pissed

That said ... those are some troubling news and the Devs aren`t really helping themselves with takedown threats...

[Hobbes]

Backer here.

There's been no additional info from the devs and we're now into August.

Right now this still remains a "He said, she said" issue but when one party isn't being forthcoming with details, and one party *is*, you tend to side with the party that is coming up with the information.

That would be SidAlpha.

As someone with money in this game I would advise to treat this project with severe caution until Abrakam can come up with something more definitive than "Trust us! We can't say why but we're the devs! Trust us!"

[Neon Black Interactive]

Nguyên văn bởi Hobbes:

Backer here.

There's been no additional info from the devs and we're now into August.

Right now this still remains a "He said, she said" issue but when one party isn't being forthcoming with details, and one party *is*, you tend to side with the party that is coming up with the information.

That would be SidAlpha.

As someone with money in this game I would advise to treat this project with severe caution until Abrakam can come up with something more definitive than "Trust us! We can't say why but we're the devs! Trust us!"

They posted this response earlier today:
https://www.faeria.com/news/announcements/312-faeria-friday-console-update-and-more

[Hobbes]

Nguyên văn bởi Urilbedamned:

Nguyên văn bởi Hobbes:

Backer here.

There's been no additional info from the devs and we're now into August.

Right now this still remains a "He said, she said" issue but when one party isn't being forthcoming with details, and one party *is*, you tend to side with the party that is coming up with the information.

That would be SidAlpha.

As someone with money in this game I would advise to treat this project with severe caution until Abrakam can come up with something more definitive than "Trust us! We can't say why but we're the devs! Trust us!"

They posted this response earlier today:
https://www.faeria.com/news/announcements/312-faeria-friday-console-update-and-more

I read it and it still answers nothing beyond "Trust us! We're the devs! We're taking legal action against SidAlpha!"

This is stuff everyone *knew*, Sid's even given out a contact address so they can facilitate said legal action -faster-, so if this does get as far as court (spoiler: If it gets further than summary dismissal I'll eat a shoe), then we can reasonably expect Leonard French to cover it.

What it doesn't state is if they (Abrakam) are -fine-, you'd expect that if they were financially good to go, what it doesn't state is why they even referenced details in their contact with the contractor that would imply financial difficulties.

All of this mess could be solved with some transparency around their current situation.

Their post just rehashes a lot of what we already know.

[Mail]

What can they possibly add at this point then, hobbes? They've clarified that they are working on the game, they have paid the developer, and that sid was maybe twisting facts a bit in his video. They obviously can't prove that Roguebook will be completed, because Roguebook is not completed yet. But it's pretty reassuring for them to make a public statement saying they will complete Roguebook, and that the developer ended up getting paid.

[Hobbes]

Nguyên văn bởi Mail:

What can they possibly add at this point then, hobbes? They've clarified that they are working on the game, they have paid the developer, and that sid was maybe twisting facts a bit in his video. They obviously can't prove that Roguebook will be completed, because Roguebook is not completed yet. But it's pretty reassuring for them to make a public statement saying they will complete Roguebook, and that the developer ended up getting paid.

The developer being paid is something to the good. What I'm talking about and this is pretty simple stuff:

"We're not in financial distress. What was mentioned in the email was a simple mistranslation and we intend to clean that up once we're in a position (legal team pending) to do so. Once we have more to say on the subject, we'll make sure to clarify the matter and put an end to any possible rumours."

This would shoot SidAlpha's argument in the head, reassure the backers, and at the same time provide a little bit of much needed transparency.

I've done that in one paragraph.

I'm not even a PR expert and I've just demonstrated how a little bit of transparency can make a lot of difference.

This is *not hard*.

[Mail]

I agree that they should have added the fact that they were not going bankrupt to that explanation, although it'd be just as credible as them stating that they were still working on Roguebook. Since Jiem argued against the company going bankrupt on discord I am not worried, though.

[Thultex]

Well honestly, titling a video that way makes it a bad source for me in the first place. It's obvious that you can run a dev team down that way, and that by accusation not by looking for a solution. Its neveer good leaving a contractor without pay... however things like this happen in every industrie due to oversight or missorganisation and it does not make a company or team anything, especially when they're eager too correct such mistakes. A journaistic video stating facts and not baiting with a panicy title would hava made sense... this is plain monetisation of conflict.

[GOLD✫IFISH✫ ВуСhris]

voila qui est clair sur la situation financiere de cette societé, mais en 2015 et 2016 la situation etais bien plus alarmante,en 2017 l excellent faéria a redressé la barre, ils ont du talent et si vous regardez bien les liens ci dessous, vous verrez que l admistration a changer ,par contre si je comprend bien le document, ils ont probleme juridique et administratif, mais ceci explique probablement... le changement d admistration
https://www.companyweb.be/societe/abrakam/sa/535841064

[Pickle Bath]

No matter how promising a game looks, just don't buy it in early access or Kickstart it unless you are happy with the exact current state and think it's worth the money "as is" if the devs were to completely die or go out of business.

[Jonah Falcon]

It's not a scam. They just signed a publishing deal with NACON, a French publisher.

https://youtu.be/Rrgds8KXesM?t=1764

[TrashtheEgo]

Considering the source of all this, I'm just going to assume it's manufactured drama and all in bad faith.