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Orbital Drop Spicy Taco Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:10am
Is Tacview must requirement for this game?
Is a person without Tacview, or only with standard version of Tacview cannot play CMO?

Or are we still can play CMO yet cannot see 3d features?

What is the merit of Tacview in CMO? Worth to invest for advanced version?

I have CMANO so I have 50% discount, yet, with advanced Tacview, it is still challenging price :steamsad:
Last edited by Orbital Drop Spicy Taco; Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:59am
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Peligin Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:33am 
You can play CMO without it but will not have that extra window that shows a real-time 3D view.
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Orbital Drop Spicy Taco Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Peligin:
You can play CMO without it but will not have that extra window that shows a real-time 3D view.
Thank you. Is that real-time 3D view essential? I mean, is this an eye-candy effect? Or is this can be an important element which impact on difficulty or progress of the game?
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jbarry39 Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:36am 
It's a God's Eye View...Personally CMANO/CMO is a War Room style simulator...like Harpoon was...I really don't see the point.
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Chris Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:37am 
It is just extra information. Not essential, but definitely cool. In fact fog of war is not currently implemented in tacview--so it may be too much information (spoilers) if abused
Last edited by Chris; Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:37am
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Peligin Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:38am 
This is how a dev described it in another thread:

Originally posted by Dimitris:
Currently Tacview shows all units present in a scenario, both friendly and otherwise. This is how Tacview has always worked since it was originally designed as an AAR tool rather than a real-time visualizer.

Does this mean it can be used to "cheat"? Yes. But Command has always made it easy for the player to cheat (e.g. open a scen/save in ScenEdit mode and be able to see _and_ change everything). Tacview's current omniscience does not change this.

Are there mitigations? Yes. For example if you keep the camera only on your own units and avoid zooming-out, seeing other units/contacts is much more difficult.

Players who wish that true fog-of-war be implemented in the Tacview window can vote for it as a requested feature in our new live poll: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4709794

Thanks!

I don't like that it tells you a lot of information you would not normally see, like the exact position and type of units that you haven't been able to identify visually or with radar yet. It is functionally kind of a cheat. It is up to you to determine if you would prefer to have the 3D functionality to better visualize the battlefield, knowing that it will make the game easier.
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Chris Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:40am 
It is really cool to see how much information is actually being modelled for all of those radar contacts though behind the scenes
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mikenorthrn Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:41am 
It does, however, add additional visual interest to the game. I'm really enjoying using TacView, it adds something I didn't realize I would enjoy as much as I do.
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SeaJunk Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:52am 
Which version of TacView would you recommend? Standard or Advanced?
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Chris Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:53am 
I don't have it yet. But I believe advanced is required, the standard let's you use advance features for a trial period
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burning.phoneix Nov 14, 2019 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by SeaJunk:
Which version of TacView would you recommend? Standard or Advanced?

Advanced is the only version that works with CMO. Standard unforutantely does not.
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greywulf99 Nov 14, 2019 @ 11:06am 
Also Tracview Advanced purchased through Steam will be able to be used also for any flight sim DCS, IL-2,Prepare 3d, X-Plane-11 and have the perk in CMO also.
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jungle.james Nov 14, 2019 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Chris:
It is just extra information. Not essential, but definitely cool. In fact fog of war is not currently implemented in tacview--so it may be too much information (spoilers) if abused

Already observed this to where a unit was seen in Tacview before the FLIR captured it.
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Pax25 Nov 22, 2019 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by jungle.james:
Originally posted by Chris:
It is just extra information. Not essential, but definitely cool. In fact fog of war is not currently implemented in tacview--so it may be too much information (spoilers) if abused

Already observed this to where a unit was seen in Tacview before the FLIR captured it.

Do they plan to implement FOG in Tacview?
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burning.phoneix Nov 24, 2019 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by 9thNY(B) Pvt. Pax25:
Originally posted by jungle.james:

Already observed this to where a unit was seen in Tacview before the FLIR captured it.

Do they plan to implement FOG in Tacview?

The devs have a running poll on their forums for what features they should work on next over here:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4709794&mpage=2&key=

Currently, "Tacview- Implement Fog of War" is winning! Join the forum and vote there as well so the devs can see the support this feature has.
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Pax25 Nov 24, 2019 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by burning.phoneix:
Originally posted by 9thNY(B) Pvt. Pax25:

Do they plan to implement FOG in Tacview?

The devs have a running poll on their forums for what features they should work on next over here:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4709794&mpage=2&key=

Currently, "Tacview- Implement Fog of War" is winning! Join the forum and vote there as well so the devs can see the support this feature has.

Thanks. I voted.

Would also love to see real time MP. Makes no sense to me that Harpoon had this feature and Command does not.
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