Command: Modern Operations

Command: Modern Operations

Kartikeya Jul 29, 2021 @ 6:35am
Are i5 processors officially too old for this game?
I have i5-7400 processor 4 cores at 3 GHz, 16 GB RAM and Radeon RX470 card. Game is installed on SSD with ample space. Yet certain missions like the Escalation in Kashmir Fire DLC are too slow to play properly with CPU usage at 100% nearly all the time.

Do I have to upgrade the PC or can I do something to increase the performance? I haven't had this problem with any other game till now.
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Kartikeya Aug 21, 2021 @ 12:09am 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewX8NYMhx8Y

This is a quick video I recorded of the game stopping after launch of multiple cruise missiles. It stays like this for a long time or just crashes.
ElGammaPenumbra Aug 21, 2021 @ 4:00pm 
i5-7400 is 7th generation. It's kinda old among the i5 series.
Kartikeya Aug 23, 2021 @ 4:17am 
I know it is old, I bought it myself. I am asking the developer if the slow down in game is due to processor or something else. Does your post answer my question in anyway?
Last edited by Kartikeya; Aug 23, 2021 @ 4:18am
Nukkxx Aug 28, 2021 @ 6:29am 
No idea if this can help but I just found out that on my PC, the interactive message log makes the game lagging a lot (on fairly large battles). When I switch to raw text view instead (in a separate window), it all runs normally again, or at least much much better.
Last edited by Nukkxx; Aug 28, 2021 @ 6:31am
Dimitris  [developer] Aug 28, 2021 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by Nukkxx:
No idea if this can help but I just found out that on my PC, the interactive message log makes the game lagging a lot (on fairly large battles). When I switch to raw text view instead (in a separate window), it all runs normally again, or at least much much better.

Can you share a scenario save where this happens? B1147.30 had a fix specifically for this issue, so I find it curious that you are still experiencing it.
Nukkxx Aug 28, 2021 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by Dimitris:
Originally posted by Nukkxx:
No idea if this can help but I just found out that on my PC, the interactive message log makes the game lagging a lot (on fairly large battles). When I switch to raw text view instead (in a separate window), it all runs normally again, or at least much much better.

Can you share a scenario save where this happens? B1147.30 had a fix specifically for this issue, so I find it curious that you are still experiencing it.

I didn't keep my saves so I quickly recreated one. With Interactive Msg Log on, right click+drag / zoom / select units or click on menus will freeze quite often and the whole software is globally lagging. It becomes much smoother when switched to raw text in a separate window. I usually play at x2.

My config: ryzen 5 - 1600 / 6-core @3.20GHz
16 GB RAM
Radeon RX 580 - 8GB

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rafhail3kg4zniv/Blue%20Dawn_dimitris.save?dl=0

Wait until zulu 00:35:00 or 00:36:00 . With me, with interactive log, it's totally unplayable. When raw text is switched on, it's OK.
It seems it is linked with missiles launched (or MP3 sound triggered).
Last edited by Nukkxx; Aug 28, 2021 @ 1:04pm
Dimitris  [developer] Aug 28, 2021 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Nukkxx:
It seems it is linked with missiles launched (or MP3 sound triggered).

Why, does the slowdown go away if you play without sound effects ?
Last edited by Dimitris; Aug 28, 2021 @ 1:29pm
Nukkxx Aug 28, 2021 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Dimitris:
Originally posted by Nukkxx:
It seems it is linked with missiles launched (or MP3 sound triggered).

Why, does the slowdown go away if you play without sound effects ?
I haven't tried. I just noticed that it freezes each time there's an incoming missile alarm sound. Or a missile launched.
When the game goes some time without missiles and MP3 launched, it seems smoother. So IMO either the MP3 or the script that launches missiles.
Last edited by Nukkxx; Aug 29, 2021 @ 12:22am
SlendyMcTendies Sep 2, 2021 @ 8:01pm 
i3, i5, i7, and i9 don't represent CPU age. They simply mean the relative processing power of each CPU, with higher numbers being "better" generally speaking.

Your i5-7400 is in the i5 class (mid-tier performance) of 7th generation processors and "model number" 400. The "7400" (or whatever number comes after the "i" number) is what you should look at when figuring out how old your processor is.

When looking at Intel processors, remove the last 3 digits to determine the CPU's generation. At the time of writing, Intel has released their 11th generation of processors, so now we have things like the 11700. Therefore, if we remove the last three digits (700), we know that it's the 11th generation of processors.
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To get to your question, you're on a CPU that's now 4 generations old. That's not terrible, but it's not great either. I gamed on an 17-4790k for about 5-6 years before finally upgrading to a newer processor. I'm currently on an i7-9700k and I still keep up with newer games quite well.

However, CPU power isn't the "end-all" component. Game performance is a combination of CPU, RAM, GPU, and Hard Drive throughput. They all play an important role. If any of those components are too old or weak, then your performance will not be at its best.

I recommend looking into it and making the best decision for yourself. It's not as complicated as it might seem, but there's too much to go over in a single reply. Plus, computer parts are expensive right now so you'll have to take that into consideration when you look into upgrading.
Nukkxx Sep 8, 2021 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by Dimitris:
Originally posted by Nukkxx:
It seems it is linked with missiles launched (or MP3 sound triggered).

Why, does the slowdown go away if you play without sound effects ?
@Dimitris, were you able to replicated the problem with interactive message log ?
Any chance you fix it ? because it's really an issue on mid-large scenarios. Raw text is OK but interactive log is much better.
Dimitris  [developer] Sep 9, 2021 @ 4:04am 
Hi,

We are currently tied up with some professional activities, but we should be able to dig deeper into this at the last decameron of September.
Nukkxx Sep 9, 2021 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Dimitris:
Hi,

We are currently tied up with some professional activities, but we should be able to dig deeper into this at the last decameron of September.
Cool ! Thank you !
HeinzHarald Oct 21, 2021 @ 1:31pm 
Make sure to verify file integrity if you haven't already tried. I had horrendous performance just now, starting Command for the first time in a very long while. Two files needed to be downloaded again, and now it runs as it should on my machine.
Raoulo Bovaro Oct 22, 2021 @ 12:33am 
I have no problems with i5 8600k, i fix with process lasso. Open process lasso and set command process cpu priority on high
Last edited by Raoulo Bovaro; Oct 22, 2021 @ 9:45am
Dimitris  [developer] Oct 22, 2021 @ 12:12pm 
For the v1.04 update, we added tweaks in sat-to-sat checks that should significantly improve speed in scenarios with lots of MEO/GEO sats (as in Escalation).
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