Command: Modern Operations

Command: Modern Operations

Alveus Feb 3, 2020 @ 5:58pm
HGV's
Why in god's name are hypersonic glide vehicles reserved for the academic and proffessional versions of the game. Its absurd that you cant use some 21st century weapons that have already been tested and are out of development and in production and in the database on the regular version cannot be used
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Alveus Feb 10, 2020 @ 2:03pm 
So can someone explain to me why HGV's are only useable in the PRO and academic versions?they are not a new concept so im a little curious as to why they are not in reg version.
cww1964 Feb 10, 2020 @ 2:51pm 
**crickets**
Alveus Feb 11, 2020 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by cww1964:
**crickets**
what are you talking about
Sterling Archer Feb 12, 2020 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Alveus:
Originally posted by cww1964:
**crickets**
what are you talking about

**whooooooosh**
cww1964 Feb 12, 2020 @ 2:07pm 
**CRICKETS**
cww1964 Feb 12, 2020 @ 2:19pm 
**crickets** is just way of sumulating silence in a room. For example, you asked a question, Theres no reply from the devs...so essentially what is "heard" is the sound of crickets. ....but crickets DO NOT make a "whoooooooosh" sound. Crickets make a "crickity" sound. HGV's quite possibly make a "whoooosh" sound, but I wouldn't know....I guess I will never be PROfessional enough to hear because I only have the Standard CMO version with NON-functional HGV's-----they, by the way, make *cricket* sounds because of their nonfunctuality.

I'm going to bed now.
Alveus Feb 12, 2020 @ 5:45pm 
Originally posted by cww1964:
**crickets** is just way of sumulating silence in a room. For example, you asked a question, Theres no reply from the devs...so essentially what is "heard" is the sound of crickets. ....but crickets DO NOT make a "whoooooooosh" sound. Crickets make a "crickity" sound. HGV's quite possibly make a "whoooosh" sound, but I wouldn't know....I guess I will never be PROfessional enough to hear because I only have the Standard CMO version with NON-functional HGV's-----they, by the way, make *cricket* sounds because of their nonfunctuality.

I'm going to bed now.
honestly i think directed energy weapons are more futuristic than hgv's because those are still in very early prototype stage with no program readyness date
Maybe the developers (and the NATO government agencies that use the professional editions) do not want to provide any unintentional or accidental assistance to the two primary foreign adversaries of NATO nations that are close to technological parity, China and Russia. These two nations are currently developing HGV's with nuclear and conventional weapons delivery to most places on Earth within minutes as well as 'smart' SAM/IADS-evasion capabilities.

Having access to the consumer version of Command: Modern Operations with relatively accurately simulated experimental HGV's from NATO nations and/or Russia and China, would allow Russia and China to test and experiment with these simulations to refine and advance their technological, tactical, and strategic processes and knowledge related to development of their new, real-life HGV's.

So, excluding the HGV data and simulations in the public/commercial CMO products might have been a strategic decision made by people in very high places outside of Matrix Games.
Alveus Feb 15, 2020 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Yopo:
Maybe the developers (and the NATO government agencies that use the professional editions) do not want to provide any unintentional or accidental assistance to the two primary foreign adversaries of NATO nations that are close to technological parity, China and Russia. These two nations are currently developing HGV's with nuclear and conventional weapons delivery to most places on Earth within minutes as well as 'smart' SAM/IADS-evasion capabilities.

Having access to the consumer version of Command: Modern Operations with relatively accurately simulated experimental HGV's from NATO nations and/or Russia and China, would allow Russia and China to test and experiment with these simulations to refine and advance their technological, tactical, and strategic processes and knowledge related to development of their new, real-life HGV's.

So, excluding the HGV data and simulations in the public/commercial CMO products might have been a strategic decision made by people in very high places outside of Matrix Games.
Russia already has HGV's deployed china is developing them and its not just the US versions that are like this the chinese model in development isnt usable either but its in the database also we are able to use Directed energy weapons which are even less far along than our hypersonic glide vehicles and russia already has them in active service so i think that decision would be a moot point right now other wise i would agree
Xopaa Feb 22, 2020 @ 8:02pm 
Both the Russians and Chinese have highly intelligent and capable people. They have their own in-house simulation software that is far more accurate than anything available on the open market. The Defense industry is a trillion dollar a year business, the last thing they want is a bunch of domestic wargamers raising hell over and pointing out various boondoggles.
Alveus Feb 23, 2020 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Xopaa:
Both the Russians and Chinese have highly intelligent and capable people. They have their own in-house simulation software that is far more accurate than anything available on the open market. The Defense industry is a trillion dollar a year business, the last thing they want is a bunch of domestic wargamers raising hell over and pointing out various boondoggles.
Yea i can understand that but in that case dont put those weapons in the database for the open market version. But on another note the last couple of updates they have added more hgvs to the database
Originally posted by Alveus:
Originally posted by Xopaa:
Both the Russians and Chinese have highly intelligent and capable people. They have their own in-house simulation software that is far more accurate than anything available on the open market. The Defense industry is a trillion dollar a year business, the last thing they want is a bunch of domestic wargamers raising hell over and pointing out various boondoggles.
Yea i can understand that but in that case dont put those weapons in the database for the open market version. But on another note the last couple of updates they have added more hgvs to the database
This game is actually for GAMERS instead of researchers, so they have to make it...fun to play, more or less.
Yeah, "FUN":steammocking:
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Date Posted: Feb 3, 2020 @ 5:58pm
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