food question

[CharlieP]

but if u unlock recipes from say cabbages will that force recipes from strawberries? asking before i try to do something only to find out it wont work

[CharlieP]

im legit hoping if i restart i can unlock recipes from 1 food but use another later cause if not then hate to say it but benxc lied in his video

[Aura]

Not sure I fully understand your question.

For me... I try and cook as little as possible until I get 2 ingredient or 3 ingredient cooking because the villagers can only cook what you have cooked... and for some reason they really like to cook the terrible recipes but hate to eat them

For example: Sweeties. Yes it sucks you can't cook them for the fat rat, and then you have sugar cane sitting around useless for awhile... but if you cook them then it's harder to make the make pancakes with sugarcane later, or even later than that - hearty cream cake (which gives the most amount of hearts possible for a food) so for that reason I cook as little as possible. I look up the food lists and decide what recipes I want them to cook and then only cook those.

troublesome at the start, but pays off in the end if you are like me and want better control over what NPCs cook.

[CharlieP]

Originally posted by Aura:

Not sure I fully understand your question.

For me... I try and cook as little as possible until I get 2 ingredient or 3 ingredient cooking because the villagers can only cook what you have cooked... and for some reason they really like to cook the terrible recipes but hate to eat them

For example: Sweeties. Yes it sucks you can't cook them for the fat rat, and then you have sugar cane sitting around useless for awhile... but if you cook them then it's harder to make the make pancakes with sugarcane later, or even later than that - hearty cream cake (which gives the most amount of hearts possible for a food) so for that reason I cook as little as possible. I look up the food lists and decide what recipes I want them to cook and then only cook those.

troublesome at the start, but pays off in the end if you are like me and want better control over what NPCs cook.

ok then wat foods should i avoid early on to get to rice and strawberries by end game?

[Aura]

If all you want them to mass produce is rice and strawberry fruit pies, then it doesn't matter what you make as long as it doesn't ever include strawberries or rice.

Good news is, you can start making that (if you have the DLC) right after Khrumble-Dun (2nd story island) so you don't even have to wait til end game.

If you want them to make fish and chips tho, I would recommend never making the fish on a stick item. Cuz then they will waste all your precious fish on that instead of on fish and chips.

[CharlieP]

ok tho idk which item to make cause according to ben the fruit pies is best but yall say fish and chips so hmm

[CharlieP]

Originally posted by Aura:

If all you want them to mass produce is rice and strawberry fruit pies, then it doesn't matter what you make as long as it doesn't ever include strawberries or rice.

Good news is, you can start making that (if you have the DLC) right after Khrumble-Dun (2nd story island) so you don't even have to wait til end game.

If you want them to make fish and chips tho, I would recommend never making the fish on a stick item. Cuz then they will waste all your precious fish on that instead of on fish and chips.

also that confirms them u dont have to worry bout using say cabbage to make 1 thing and it unlocking it for other items as well

[lilisaur]

What it means is that if you cook Cabbage into Grilled Greens, then resdient cooks will often cook Grilled Greens - all two and three ingredient recipes that can use Cabbage will be harder to make. For example, Stir-fry, Seafood Salad, Scrumptious Salad, etc. will be made less often by the residents becuase they'll pick up Cabbage out of the chest, and the game will often decide to make Grilled Greens before picking up another ingredient.

Fruit Pie is made with a grain and a fruit. The game requires you to make Bread, so that limits you becuase Bread will be cooked more often than the combination. However, Finest Fruit Pie takes Rice and a fruit, so if you haven't cooked Rice into Best Bread yet (or other Rice-based foods) then the residents will be always cook Finest Fruit Pie when they choose Rice from the chest assuming you have the appropriate fruit available as well. I think this is what Ben's video was getting at.

Aura takes it a bit further to three ingredients - she's a big fan of Hearty Cream Cake since it gives the most gratitude when residents eat it. It can be made with a grain, sugarcane, and a strawberry or moreberry. Can't avoid the Bread recipe, but Rice and Buckwheat work for Hearty Cream Cake as well. So she avoids making any other foods that use rice, buckwheat, fruits, or sugarcane,or combinations of these (Better Bread or Best Bread, Sweeties, Gungerbread, Fruit Flambe, Finest Fruit Pie, and Rice Dumplings), then stocks her fields with only Rice/Buckwheat, Strawberrries, and Sugarcane, and thus the residents can only ever cook Hearty Cream Cake because they can't do anything else with the ingredients provided. (The drawback is Aura can't complete 100% recipes on that game and leaves a Fat Rat or two unsatisfied at Furrowfield.)

[CharlieP]

Originally posted by lilisaur:

What it means is that if you cook Cabbage into Grilled Greens, then resdient cooks will often cook Grilled Greens - all two and three ingredient recipes that can use Cabbage will be harder to make. For example, Stir-fry, Seafood Salad, Scrumptious Salad, etc. will be made less often by the residents becuase they'll pick up Cabbage out of the chest, and the game will often decide to make Grilled Greens before picking up another ingredient.

Fruit Pie is made with a grain and a fruit. The game requires you to make Bread, so that limits you becuase Bread will be cooked more often than the combination. However, Finest Fruit Pie takes Rice and a fruit, so if you haven't cooked Rice into Best Bread yet (or other Rice-based foods) then the residents will be always cook Finest Fruit Pie when they choose Rice from the chest assuming you have the appropriate fruit available as well. I think this is what Ben's video was getting at.

Aura takes it a bit further to three ingredients - she's a big fan of Hearty Cream Cake since it gives the most gratitude when residents eat it. It can be made with a grain, sugarcane, and a strawberry or moreberry. Can't avoid the Bread recipe, but Rice and Buckwheat work for Hearty Cream Cake as well. So she avoids making any other foods that use rice, buckwheat, fruits, or sugarcane,or combinations of these (Better Bread or Best Bread, Sweeties, Gungerbread, Fruit Flambe, Finest Fruit Pie, and Rice Dumplings), then stocks her fields with only Rice/Buckwheat, Strawberrries, and Sugarcane, and thus the residents can only ever cook Hearty Cream Cake because they can't do anything else with the ingredients provided. (The drawback is Aura can't complete 100% recipes on that game and leaves a Fat Rat or two unsatisfied at Furrowfield.)

ohh gotcha tho i have to ask do recipes cross each other or no?

[lilisaur]

I dont know what you mean by 'do recipes cross each other'.

[CharlieP]

Originally posted by lilisaur:

I dont know what you mean by 'do recipes cross each other'.

if i use a wheat recipe will that screw over buckwheat and rice?

[lilisaur]

If the recipe uses any type of grain, then they'll use Wheat if Buckwheat or Rice aren't available. Fruit Pie for example can use any of those three grains, but Finest Fruit Pie requires Rice and neither Wheat or Buckwheat can be used. Pizza is a food that doesn't have multiple levels: its just grain and cheese. If you make Pizza with Rice and Cheese, then the residents may make it with Wheat or Buckwheat instead because the recipe doesn't care which is used. It doesn't matter what ingredients the Builder uses to make a food; if comparable ingredients are available the residents will use them.

See Foods and Ingredients tabs at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I7YipHxPNTNkqES5GctiWtZgavvM_RFadCo08rh01QM/htmlview# for more details on the food recipes and to figure out what foods might be cooked based on ingredient availability.