Capture equipment. Whats the point?

[jab2096]

I love the game. BUT i hate how the captured equiment works.

1) WHY WHY should you have to pay full prestige for them. They are mostly inferior to what you can buy in the store (except for maybe kv-1). If they at least was much more cheaper it might be a point
2) Put in a feature where you can sell them for scrap-money!!!!
3) Let us use them as aux for free.

As it is now. Capture stuff has absolutly whatsover no meaning.

Ok it could be fun to have a german T-34..... but what is the point.........its only slightly better in -41, you cant reinforce it unless you have a surplus, it cost the same.....


What does the devs intend we do with them ?

[eddy16]

I agree, prestige should be free, no reinforcements, use it until it dies. That would be historical use also

[eskuche]

Well you do get prestige for capturing. So you can think of it as double dipping if you were allowed to deploy for free too. But I agree that captured equipment that is simply a German reason should have some other purpose.

[jab2096]

Originally posted by 박문:

Well you do get prestige for capturing. So you can think of it as double dipping.

True, but u also get prestige for capturing inf. I belive my point is still valid even so. Why do you get equipment in the game when u hardly have any use for it.

[TinPotSquirrel]

You can use traits as your choice which make using captured equipment very viable and can be quite fun. It provides an option for those who want to try it. For those who do not they still get prestige and can remove the captured equipment if they wish. Personally I am enjoying a game with a lot of options to how I can play or why, and not be pushed into a single play style.

[w.f.schepel]

Originally posted by jab2096:

I love the game. BUT i hate how the captured equiment works.

1) WHY WHY should you have to pay full prestige for them. They are mostly inferior to what you can buy in the store (except for maybe kv-1). If they at least was much more cheaper it might be a point
2) Put in a feature where you can sell them for scrap-money!!!!
3) Let us use them as aux for free.

As it is now. Capture stuff has absolutly whatsover no meaning.

Ok it could be fun to have a german T-34..... but what is the point.........its only slightly better in -41, you cant reinforce it unless you have a surplus, it cost the same.....


What does the devs intend we do with them ?

I strongly disagree. I just finished a FM campaign basically using as much captured equipment as I could. It wasn't a handicap at all. Russian tanks come with so much more ground def, combined with mobility, that they outclass anything there is on offer for the Germans until you get to play with Panthers. Even so, A T-34 (43) made it all the way to the final US mission. A captured set of T26E4's oblitterated most US opposition. If you know how to capture effectively, combined with the double captured equipment trait, you can get more than enough equipment.

[Magni]

There's a bunch of interesting stuff, you get the prestige anyway just from capturing the unit, and it really isn't that hard to get a decent stockpile especially with Trophies of War.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2071826209

That's what I got so far by the end of Kasserine, and I didn't even cheese surrenders all too hard.

[Green Knight]

Originally posted by jab2096:

I love the game. BUT i hate how the captured equiment works.

1) WHY WHY should you have to pay full prestige for them. They are mostly inferior to what you can buy in the store (except for maybe kv-1). If they at least was much more cheaper it might be a point
2) Put in a feature where you can sell them for scrap-money!!!!
3) Let us use them as aux for free.

As it is now. Capture stuff has absolutly whatsover no meaning.

Ok it could be fun to have a german T-34..... but what is the point.........its only slightly better in -41, you cant reinforce it unless you have a surplus, it cost the same.....


What does the devs intend we do with them ?

You get the full cost of whatever strengt points you capture, so basically you can field captured units for free.

Deploy and use until destroyed. That's exactly what you describe you're looking for. It's already in the game.

If you use Trophies of War, you double capture and prestige, making it a lot easier to get full units.

Finally, many enemy units are pretty good. T-34 is speed 6, Kv tanks are well armored. Even GB and us have some good tanks.

[Thorin]

Almost always there are units that have better stats than yours, some are barely better, some are much better. Sadly no way to capture enemy airunits...

[w.f.schepel]

Originally posted by Thorin:

Almost always there are units that have better stats than yours, some are barely better, some are much better. Sadly no way to capture enemy airunits...

Yea, I still believe that if you capture an airfield when there is no way for enemy units to retreat, you should capture them rather than destroy them.

Also, I would like a demand surrender option. Basically, any unit that would surrender from any attack should simply surrender without any further casualties. That way it would be somewhat less complicated to capture artillery, for instance. Most of the time I destroy soft units that I intend to capture.

[~Draugkir~]

Originally posted by w.f.schepel:

Originally posted by Thorin:

Almost always there are units that have better stats than yours, some are barely better, some are much better. Sadly no way to capture enemy airunits...

Yea, I still believe that if you capture an airfield when there is no way for enemy units to retreat, you should capture them rather than destroy them.

Also, I would like a demand surrender option. Basically, any unit that would surrender from any attack should simply surrender without any further casualties. That way it would be somewhat less complicated to capture artillery, for instance. Most of the time I destroy soft units that I intend to capture.

Nice idea.
Capturing an enemy airfield could fire an odd of capturing based there enemy aircrafts.

Awesome stuff.

Another thing could be when infantry surrenders, put those men in a "captives" pool that could allow you later to recruit "conscript" units similiar to those so much used by soviets.