Shouldn't a male char be called a Warlock instead of a Witch ?

[Super yuppers]

My char keeps getting called a Witch and i found it weird i feel like it should be called a Warlock

[YukiYeah]

Witch applies both for males and females in this game.

[TTVThatWitchKaia]

No. Warlock doesn't mean "male witch" it means "oath breaker" and is NOT a good thing. The word witch isn't gendered, it can apply to anyone.

[Super yuppers]

Originally posted by lady_dreamwyn:

No. Warlock doesn't mean "male witch" it means "oath breaker" and is NOT a good thing. The word witch isn't gendered, it can apply to anyone.

Not really Witch is used specifically for females and both Warlocks and Witches are black magic users which is not a good thing.

[Ydyp]

Originally posted by lady_dreamwyn:

No. Warlock doesn't mean "male witch" it means "oath breaker" and is NOT a good thing. The word witch isn't gendered, it can apply to anyone.

If you look up the word "witch" in a dictionary you will mostly find that it is a countable noun and refers to a woman who has magic powers. And last time I checked a woman is still clearly female.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher:

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Not really Witch is used specifically for females and both Warlocks and Witches are black magic users which is not a good thing.

Well there are good witches to, and in this game you are one of the good ones.

[TTVThatWitchKaia]

You mean the one that says:

a person, now especially a woman, who professes or is supposed to practice magic or sorcery; a sorceress

Though people have gendered the term in the modern day, it was never meant to be gendered. And if you ask an actual witch, they will tell you the same.

Not all witches practice black magic, in fact, most witches don't. I'm a Green Witch. That has nothing to do with black magic.

[RPGenie]

I've seen it used for males in other fictional mediums and historically, but regardless, this is fiction so the creator is free to choose what class names he wants the classes to have. In this game's world witches are male or female.

[Super yuppers]

Originally posted by RPGenie:

I've seen it used for males in other fictional mediums and historically, but regardless, this is fiction so the creator is free to choose what class names he wants the classes to have. In this game's world witches are male or female.

I myself never seen it used for males there is often a lot of names that can be used for a male like Mage , Sorcerer , Wizard , Warlock etc but then again no one here is telling an artist what to do with their own creation it was just me finding it weird and thought about making a post about it.

[aplethoraof]

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher:

Originally posted by RPGenie:

I've seen it used for males in other fictional mediums and historically, but regardless, this is fiction so the creator is free to choose what class names he wants the classes to have. In this game's world witches are male or female.

I myself never seen it used for males there is often a lot of names that can be used for a male like Mage , Sorcerer , Wizard , Warlock etc but then again no one here is telling an artist what to do with their own creation it was just me finding it weird and thought about making a post about it.

--Klarion Bleak aka Klarion the Witch Boy (DC).
--Wicca aka Witchcraft, men are called witches as well (the phemonena of "witch" as a female-only term is relatively modern, in-fact). The terms "warlock" and "wizard" are generally considered misnomers are are discouraged within those communities.
--Terry Pratchet's Geoffrey Swivel is a male witch. In the disk-world series, witches and wizards do different things - it is more of a societal divide and in reality both men and women can be either.
--In the Jhereg series, "witch" is unisex.
--In the Nightrunner series, "witch" and "wizard" are both unisex and both refer to different kinds of magic.
--In D&D, you can have a female or male wizard, sorcerer, or warlock. At-least in 3.5 vanilla, there is no "witch" class (there is one obscure PRC, though that is more a societal status name and not the name of a type of spellcasting).

Witch and Wizard (and Warlock) are all just arbitrary fictional terms in the end. No-one has a monopoly on them, and authors can use them however they like. And they do. Sometimes they are gendered, sometimes they are not.

This game simply falls to the latter.

[Caelinus]

Originally posted by aplethoraof:

--In D&D, you can have a female or male wizard, sorcerer, or warlock. At-least in 3.5 vanilla, there is no "witch" class (there is one obscure PRC, though that is more a societal status name and not the name of a type of spellcasting).

Exactly. Pathfinder, which is a fantastic 3rd party remake + super expansion of D&D 3.5, has a Witch class that can both be male or female. There are a lot of contexts in fiction for male witches.

It is commonly understood to be a gendered thing, but that is not universal and there are hundreds of examples of it being either.

[Daniel_USA]

aren't male witches called wiccans.

[Rotheilm]

Originally posted by Daniel_USA:

aren't male witches called wiccans.

Don't think so, think it come from those who pratice the Wicca

[aplethoraof]

Originally posted by Daniel_USA:

aren't male witches called wiccans.

"It depends".

Not in the contemporary sense.

However, Wicca and Wicce are the masculine and feminine (respectively) old english words for "witch".

[Dunathi]

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher:

My char keeps getting called a Witch and i found it weird i feel like it should be called a Warlock

How about you go look it up on google instead of looking stupid

[Super yuppers]

Originally posted by Dusk:

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher:

My char keeps getting called a Witch and i found it weird i feel like it should be called a Warlock

How about you go look it up on google instead of looking stupid

oof you sound like you eat poop for breakfast and you have 0 real life human communication i really feel bad for you .......... oh and btw google says Warlock is the male word for Witch atleast the first 20 pages in google

[CleverLikeMe]

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher:

Originally posted by Dusk:

How about you go look it up on google instead of looking stupid

oof you sound like you eat poop for breakfast and you have 0 real life human communication i really feel bad for you .......... oh and btw google says Warlock is the male word for Witch :praisesun: atleast the first 20 pages in google

This whole thread is mindnumbing.

That said, the first result in google, for me, when I search for the term 'male witch' is a page on a website witchcraftandwitches (dot com) which specifically argues that the correct term for a male witch is... witch. They do seem to acknowledge that not everyone thinks this, and also that pop culture almost exclusively genders witches as female. But, alas, the online witches believe men who do their thing are... witches. Take that for what you will.

That said, I find it hard to believe you're off doing this same thing with regards to female video game characters who are referred to by titles, roles, or classes typically gendered male. I'm thinking about all the games with the option to make female crusaders, paladins, knights, etc.

Ultimately, witchcraft and witches are largely works of fiction (setting aside, for the sake of clarity, people who practice Wicca as a religion type thing). Even if witches weren't largely works of fiction, THIS is a work of fiction. As with most works of fiction, it uses established concepts and ideas found across at least a few cultures and across a range of time periods, mashes them together in weird ways, and puts the authors own spin on them.

So here we are, a game with witches who wear pointy hats and do all kinds of stock standard American Halloween witchey things, like have familiars or ride brooms or whatever - but they also include dudes who are witches, seem to be accepted into and even a cornerstone of mainstream society, live in towns among the normies, and apparently they farm a lot. Oh, and there are furries there too. Forgive me if I've made some mistakes here or missed some stuff - I'm about 20 minutes into the game.

Still... male witches can be witches if the author wants. He/she isn't wrong, either. And, who cares.

Also plenty of modern fiction dealing with the supernatural contains male witches. First in my mind would be maybe True Blood - maybe also the novels it was based on but i dunno never read them.

Sigh.