Book 5 Fox Sisters' Opinion

[Samseng Yik]

Feel they are overtuned.
1) 150 SP damage to interrupt their incantation is asking too much. Is my first time run into them with Lilith Mary Baron.
- asking player should build SP damage for this book, which actually lower build variation. It is also funny that these sisters are fragile old lady but physical force can't flinch them. Suggest make them interrupt from physical damage as well, or any damage
2) 150 SP damage is asking a lot. If the players are not running top build and best combination. Interruption chance close to null unless we manage to get the SuperPower buff exactly at the right time. And pray you don't need to use AP for recharge this turn.
3) Zombie don't deal damage to the living sister while they heal by another sister death. Perhaps these are some celestial power beyond the zombie control?
4) They are scaling damage too fast and frequent multi hit. This is taking account of I steal their buff and SuperPower when available. I am lucky in this run to have 100 essence full pool when fighting them. Still ended with 30+ essence, Probably Exhaust debuff is needed which I don't have access to.

The fight is still a win. Albeit extremely cumbersome by going in blind.
I am using Lilith Mary Baron, full physical focus.
I can output near 250 HP damage per turn (3 sisters combine) and it turn out to be AOE damage is the most useless in this boss, perhaps someone tested kill all 3 sisters in 1 move?
As for the guide for this boss, SP damage + DPS race is the direction to go.
Suggest the HP/SP/Damage enemy stat scaling of book lower down slightly as 50%+ really make early game a chore

I consider I am having the luckiest run in term of damage and relic. Just didn't expect Fox Sisters counter my party build physical damage.
Lilith
- have the relic that boost full party physical damage when using initiator and conclusion. (Everyone probably can see where this goes)
Baron
- Has 2 full party attack that also double hit. 1 of these is steal HP
- Has the relic to auto recharge 1 skill per turn
Mary
- Not much changes from starter skills, aside from 1 AP dagger throw.
- Has the relic to recharge to 2 skills per turn, but recharge only drop a mirror.
- Has the relic to start battle with mirror on random enemy.

[Myth Alric]

I ran into them the first time yesterday and I killed two of them in turn one before they could act, then killed the last one the following turn. So I don't actually have any idea how they are supposed to play because I completed wiped them.

I was using Mary as a heavy damage dealer. I put the mirror on one, then attacked the other so they both died at the exact same time. I had 2 maxed wicked casts(0 ap) a lunatic strike(1 ap), two bloody waltz(one gold and one purple) then some useless skills. I had the relic that starts with the mirror on someone and the one for double damage for the party.

Actually just the bloody waltz with all the other skills on cooldown, while damage is doubled, is pretty devastating. I had Lilith too with her growth ability to make things cheaper to cast too. I don't remember if I used her AOE finisher or not to finish them off but I might of. Since it is also double damage and as you can expect she would have had a huge passive boost after spamming a ton of attacks with Mary.

[Azrael]

I just killed them, it doesn't matter what kind of damage you deal to them it adds up to roughly 150 and the incantations gets disrupted.

[Fortytudo]

Originally posted by Myth Alric:

I was using Mary as a heavy damage dealer. I put the mirror on one, then attacked the other so they both died at the exact same time. I had 2 maxed wicked casts(0 ap) a lunatic strike(1 ap), two bloody waltz(one gold and one purple) then some useless skills. I had the relic that starts with the mirror on someone and the one for double damage for the party.

With this build you can wipe out anyone at any book and any difficulty, so not very helpful for those who dont run that build.

[Myth Alric]

Well the boss on the level prior to that gets immortality in the middle of the fight, so you can't burst him down no matter how much damage you do. So I wouldn't say they are all easy to burst down with high damage. I don't know how much hp all the bosses have but the fox sisters seemed more prone to bursting down than others I played, so I want to say they have less health. Though maybe I did just get good luck on building my characters that campaign.

[Fortytudo]

Originally posted by Myth Alric:

Well the boss on the level prior to that gets immortality in the middle of the fight, so you can't burst him down no matter how much damage you do.

It doesnt rly matter if you can finish off bosses 1 turn earlier or later, raw damage is king in this game, so if you managed to build your Mary into killing machine, you already won.

Tho I do agree that if you for some reason decided to take only damage skills for all 3 of your chars, even 1 turn can screw you over, but who would do that? You only need Mary to deal damage, the other 2 characters should be supports. With such a comp, it doesnt matter if the fight drags on for a couple more turns(Looking at you Gloria), you will win no matter what. Which is boring.

[Lycan]

I beat them extremely easy. With White Lady, Hec, Horseman. It wasn't even a challenge. I focus hec on healing my sp. White lady was healing me with her mask. Horseman was silencing them and lowering their attack every turn and then i killed them all with his bitterness spender

[cANe]

I had the same characters as you did but beat them easily on my first attempt. Granted I had a mostly SP focused build focusing on depression with the baron and I had some nasty good cards as well.

Granted I agree with you in general that a lot of fights are poorly balanced and need a bit too specific builds. Also the RNG is off the charts, especially when it comes to obtaining the lvl 3 only cards which often times can be complete game changers on their own.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by cANe:

Also the RNG is off the charts, especially when it comes to obtaining the lvl 3 only cards which often times can be complete game changers on their own.

For that, do remember that you can sacrifice the tier 3 cards to get a new one and remove the old one from the pool.

[OG.UA SAPUTRA]

Originally posted by Fortytudo:

Originally posted by Myth Alric:

I was using Mary as a heavy damage dealer. I put the mirror on one, then attacked the other so they both died at the exact same time. I had 2 maxed wicked casts(0 ap) a lunatic strike(1 ap), two bloody waltz(one gold and one purple) then some useless skills. I had the relic that starts with the mirror on someone and the one for double damage for the party.

With this build you can wipe out anyone at any book and any difficulty, so not very helpful for those who dont run that build.

uhh you expect him to describe every single possible build ? lol

OP asked some advice and he gave his strategy and you just "lul everybody can do that"

[Fortytudo]

Originally posted by OG.UA SAPUTRA:

uhh you expect him to describe every single possible build ? lol

Its not that hard considering this game doesnt have build variety.

Originally posted by OG.UA SAPUTRA:

OP asked some advice and he gave his strategy and you just "lul everybody can do that"

But thats what it is. Just pick all multihit skills for 1 DPS with 2 supports and youre good.

[Spawnling]

Originally posted by Fortytudo:

Originally posted by OG.UA SAPUTRA:

uhh you expect him to describe every single possible build ? lol

Its not that hard considering this game doesnt have build variety.

Originally posted by OG.UA SAPUTRA:

OP asked some advice and he gave his strategy and you just "lul everybody can do that"

But thats what it is. Just pick all multihit skills for 1 DPS with 2 supports and youre good.

And then you fight the boss in book 6

[Fortytudo]

Originally posted by Spawnling:

And then you fight the boss in book 6

I defeated Gloria on the first try with multihit build. It just takes longer than other bosses so for that Book you can take a couple of healing abilities for your supports and thats it, nothing special.

[Spawnling]

Originally posted by Fortytudo:

Originally posted by Spawnling:

And then you fight the boss in book 6

I defeated Gloria on the first try with multihit build. It just takes longer than other bosses so for that Book you can take a couple of healing abilities for your supports and thats it, nothing special.

Guess my mistake was picking Dracula as my damage dealer, cause every skill applies a status -.-.
Edit: Survival instinct counts as status as well as fang (double attack) to heal you back.
Guess I'll have to restart with another character or build Bloody Mary as a damage dealer and not suppoert SP.

[Fortytudo]

Originally posted by Spawnling:

Guess my mistake was picking Dracula as my damage dealer, cause every skill applies a status -.-.
Edit: Survival instinct counts as status as well as fang (double attack) to heal you back.
Guess I'll have to restart with another character or build Bloody Mary as a damage dealer and not suppoert SP.

I used a Lilith/Drac/Mary comp for all my playthrough. Mary as HP damage dealer and the other two as supports. Drac can dish out damage too if needed but hes better as a support imo. That comp covers everything you need, from buffs to debuffs, alteration, split spirit, cleanse and recharge. A good straightforward build, but a boring one.

[Spawnling]

Originally posted by Fortytudo:

Originally posted by Spawnling:

Guess my mistake was picking Dracula as my damage dealer, cause every skill applies a status -.-.
Edit: Survival instinct counts as status as well as fang (double attack) to heal you back.
Guess I'll have to restart with another character or build Bloody Mary as a damage dealer and not suppoert SP.

I used a Lilith/Drac/Mary comp for all my playthrough. Mary as HP damage dealer and the other two as supports. Drac can dish out damage too if needed but hes better as a support imo. That comp covers everything you need, from buffs to debuffs, alteration, split spirit, cleanse and recharge. A good straightforward build, but a boring one.

Used Hec/Drac/Mary finally got it. just had to break the rules and bash in her head
Edit: btw whats the max difficulty? 9?