600 000+ tonnage needed for naval invasion? Can we have a cap on this please?

[Rafard23]

This is ridiculous. Just trying to invade Kyushu as China in 1943. Just to much. Anyone else encountering this?

[Wenatchee Willie]

I could handle that easily, with tonnage to spare, as the USA in 1924, where I am right now.
With radar.

Command a real navy next time I reckon.

[munroburton]

Kyushu? That's not so bad. I had to invade Western Germany with 1,000,000 tons. Was a nightmare keeping 2 million tons of ships squeezed into the amount of sea available in Hamburg's invasion zone. Got lucky and won it.

[redhongkong]

i have seem 1000k t for 1900 cn vs jp campaign
i think its military conflict not naval invasion if i remember correctly

[Ninjafroggie]

you're trying to invade the japanese mainland, in the 40s...OF COURSE it's going to take a hell of a lot of force. Hell, the US navy's plan to invade Kyushu had the japanese not surrendered after the atom bombs called for 42 carriers, 24 battleships, dozens of cruisers, and 400 destroyers and destroyer escorts. The Battleships ALONE would have totaled well over 600,000 tons. The US destroyers weighed in at 2500-3500 tons each depending on the class, while even the DDEs were 1350t ships. That's at least another 750,000 tons JUST IN ESCORTS. And then there's the carriers, which would have included the enterprise (26,000t), the 16 then-active Essex class (36,000t ea), and a bunch of independence class CVL (15,000t ea), over 900,000 tons just in carriers. Add in the various cruisers and you're talking about an invasion force of ~2.5 million tons JUST IN WARSHIPS, plus god knows how many transports and cargo ships for the troops and their supplies.

So yeah, 600,000 tons definitely not an excessive requirement for invading Kyushu

[redhongkong]

its only 100-200kt to invade jp in 1900.

i feel theres no reason for u to play 1920+ campaign where CV isnt present... its not battleship era anymore

1920- is where battleship shines

[gothimyes]

I'm seeing something similar to invade Eastern China as US in early 1940. What peeves me more is that each time the invasion fails (about 4 times in a row, and yes I did have excess tonnage in the zone), they get a stack of Victory points.

They haven't won a single naval encounter and I've destroyed their navy, several times over, but I'm about 30000 points behind in the war.

The UX and UI in this game is possibly the worst I've ever seen for paid software.

This is a decent game hiding under a deep, deep layer of s**t.

[Nebfer]

Well to be fair the amount of shipping required to pull off a large scale naval invasion would be quite large. WW2 era documents mention that for Transport by sea A soldier would require 2-3 tons of shipping (IIRC a ton in this case is actually 100 cubic feet of volume, not strictly mass -AKA registered tonnage), Horses where like 8ish tons, as where most artillery, motor vehicles generally where their wight or some generic value like 10 tons or more

So 17,000 men by them selves would be as much as some 35-50,000 tons to ship, some 1000 vehicles could easily be 10,000 tons or more. Add in artillery and other items...

So one can easily get upwards of 70,000 tons of shipping (or more) just to move a single infantry division. And then theirs the Non Divisional forces that would be supporting said division...

[BoredViking]

Well, Sudan only took 18.000 tons for 4 turns.

I think is proportional

[Rafard23]

So what i get from this, is that it's pretty normal, got it.