FFS

[Hyp]

This game is so stupid, I can't even find words anymore....................................Try to build 320mm armed BC for Germany, not possible.Because Germany have those stupid and big useless towers.Germany can't arm their BB*s with more than 16 inches, because those STUPID towers.No more words.......................Maybe it will be fixed by 2025..................................

[the Baron]

"Try to build 320mm armed BC for Germany, not possible."
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853585212
"Germany can't arm their BB*s with more than 16 inches, because those STUPID towers."
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853583734

"Maybe it will be fixed by 2025.................................."
Maybe you will learn how to play the game by then.

[blackvoid]

What year is that, are you stuck in semi-oil too?

[sintri]

Looks like custom battle, judging from the displacement probably 1940.

[Zuul]

Out of morbid curiosity, with the abutted fore and rear towers...where exactly are you planning to stuff the required funnel in that first image?

Edit: Because why not, for the sake of silliness. Was kind of curious how many 330mm guns I could actually cram onto the thing with the displacement slider all the way to the left.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853649131

Further edit: Can tell how often I play around with the later era's. Didn't even realize those big towers incorporated a funnel. Not even sure how the OP could make the mistake of thinking they couldn't equip a BC with 330mm guns. Know I could stick yet another center mount up front with the funnel incorporated into the tower.

Edit edit, edit: Because I'm an editing fool and really, really bored.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853657933

The final iteration of the 320mm armed German BC that can't carry 320mm guns.

[Hyp]

No I'm in 1940, and I said 320mm guns, not 330mm.In this game it is simply not possible to build the ship you want, because of strange towers, and all these points to set secondary guns. If you try to set secondary guns in these spots, they crash with towers.Logic......................

[Rxproject]

Not sure if the game is the problem here...

[Kraznova]

Originally posted by Rxproject:

Not sure if the game is the problem here...

Definitely a PEBCAK issue.

[BSR]

Originally posted by Hyp:

No I'm in 1940, and I said 320mm guns, not 330mm

So you can fit bigger guns that your target... how the hell can you not fit the smaller ones then?

[-=EDF=- Kouta Seto]

OP is sadly somewhat right. The game does limit you in what you can do with earlier tech. You hit dreadnought tech, yea fine and well, you CANT use OBVIOUS TURRETS that you have for smaller guns already... yea as if their so much harder to just size up... sorry, saw missouri's tower's from the inside... they didnt change for over 50 years ya know?

Some stuff IS limiting, and yes packing 20 inch guns on a BB to EARLY and not being allowed because...... DESIGN AND TECH INFERIOR TO YOUR THINKING.

You need to research tech to.... add guns on OBVIOUS spots for guns on a warship. Same for casemates. There are spots for it, there is even enogh room for it, can you? NOPE tech prohibits it. Same for smaller guns in large slots.. you just cant as... game doesnt want you. No 88mm guns on mikasa because game doesnt allow for anything smaller than 105mm guns (if not outright 127...)



So what OP said is true, you just need proper data so you can see for yourself. Plus: Some turrets of smaller guns ARE bigger all of the sudden than larger guns... we see that when you start 1890 and research mk2 gun turrets... their larger on smaller gun calibre than on big ones...

[Zuul]

Originally posted by Hyp:

No I'm in 1940, and I said 320mm guns, not 330mm.In this game it is simply not possible to build the ship you want, because of strange towers, and all these points to set secondary guns. If you try to set secondary guns in these spots, they crash with towers.Logic......................

I assumed you had a typo. Here you go with 320mm guns. Still clearly impossible to place on a German BC.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853991717

It should also be noted, until manual caliber adjustments, there really weren't 320mm guns in the game. As it sits they're an upsized 305mm with the scaling clearly off. Which has little to nothing to do with the towers, the actual 305's fit just fine.

[Silence Suzuka]

Originally posted by Hyp:

No I'm in 1940, and I said 320mm guns, not 330mm.In this game it is simply not possible to build the ship you want, because of strange towers, and all these points to set secondary guns. If you try to set secondary guns in these spots, they crash with towers.Logic......................

Hmmm, I know it is stupid. but actually, you don't have to put things on the given hardpoints.
You can hold shift, and then it will place at where your mouse is pointing at. It doesn't work with turrets on bridge or other structures, but work for deck mounted item like bridge, funnel, and turrets.

[Hyp]

Yeah, sure, if you place barbette's outside of the built in garbage it is possible.Point I tried to make, if you use built in barbette's it is impossible.The gun on the barbette refuse to fire.This game has so much promise, but when stupid things like this happens..................Well..................
Luckily game developer's have experts like Zuul to help you.But when I build ships, I want them to be similar to history,88mm secondary guns for German cruisers for example.320mm is not history for Germany, but Italy.Gulio Cesare had 320mm.And you can with difficulty put guns outside of hard points, so why even have these stupid hard points?This game is so brilliant on some things, like scaling guns, and so stupid on other,why even have built in barbettes when you don't use them?Just a massive waste of space.

[Zuul]

Well, if your issue is historical....why are you citing the inability to mount a non-historical German weapon size in the built in tower slots on a German ship, which you yourself say is not historical?

You'll be happy to know that the Italian battleships do not have any issue fitting the 320mm. In fact, the Italians, who historically actually used that gun size don't have an oddball turret model like the Germans do for that size. The issue on the German ship isn't that the gun won't fire....it's that the bulk of the turret is such that once you upscale the 305 to 320 it no longer has physical room to rotate without striking the tower. Weapons that Germany historically mounted can be used in those slots without issue.