Historical units?

[Semor76]

Hi gents.

I follow the development of this title with great interest. You did a great job!

Question: Will be already pre-build historical accurate ships in the initial release?

Tbh,I´m not so into building the entire german high seas fleet as fantasy ships completely from scratch ;-)

[Lestrad]

I agree. As much as I like the idea of being able to build custom vessels, having access to historical classes is just as important. I'd rather not have to spend an entire day alt-tabbing between the game and Wikipedia trying to build the Yamato (for example) because it wasn't in the game to begin with.

Not having prefabricated ship classes would be a really big turn off for someone wanting to pit the Bismarck against the Yamato.

[Ink]

Originally posted by Rogger76:

Hi gents.

I follow the development of this title with great interest. You did a great job!

Question: Will be already pre-build historical accurate ships in the initial release?

Tbh,I´m not so into building the german high seas fleet as fantasy ships completely from scratch ;-)

Greetings!

First of all, thank you for your interest in our game.

We base our work on historical ships and you can rebuild historical ships in our game and in the future you will be able to save their designs and name them - using them as historical ships in combat.

You can already build famous models like Yamato, Dreadnought and many others.

[Semor76]

Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated.

So,no prebuild ship classes,right?

I think Lestrad is right here and I should slowly begin to bookmark some good history sites with blueprints ;-)

cheers

[Lestrad]

Originally posted by Ink:

We base our work on historical ships and you can rebuild historical ships in our game and in the future you will be able to save their designs and name them - using them as historical ships in combat.

Based on that, I am going to assume that this means there won't be prefabricated ships that we can just build and go?

That's a big bummer. I don't want to have to spend weeks of research rebuilding an entire navy from scratch. Especially when you're talking about a force like the Imperial Japanese Navy. You have your destroyers, cruisers, heavy cruisers, battlecruisers, fast battleships, battleships, aviation battleships, seaplane tenders, light carriers, carriers, armored carriers.

I mean, just look at the Cruisers: Furutaka-class, Myoko-class, Takao-class, Mogami-class, Tone-class, Agano-class, Oyodo-class, Nagara-class, Kuma-class, Naka-class, Tenryu-class, Yubari-class, Katori-class

Or the destroyers: Minekaze-class, Kamikaze-class, Mutsuki-class, Fubuki-class, Akatsuki-class, Hatsuharu-class, Shiratsuyu-class, Asashio-class, Kagero-class, Shimakaze-class, Yugumo-class, Akizuki-class, Matsu-class...

And that would just be the Japanese.

It's just far too much trouble. Plus, I have a hard time believing we'll be able to achieve 100% accuracy on any of the ships. Unless you're seriously going to model every version and variant of main gun, secondary gun, torpedo launcher, and anti-aircraft ever implemented. Either way, very disappointed.

Sorry, but I'm out.

[DARTIS]

Dear Lestrad,

Our game offers the unique possibility to design your own 3D historical or alternative warships with countless variations. Many of the mechanics introduced so far are mentioned in our website here: https://www.dreadnoughts.ultimateadmiral.com/feature-ship-design.

Our ship design mechanics can reproduce very closely many historical ships. Already many players enjoy recreating ships such as HMS Dreadnought, Yamato and many others. You can easily find videos in the internet showing how it is done, so we do not hide anything or promise something different.

[navalsteam]

Awwwww..... no historical premade ships?

This is very disappointing.

Im interested in actual ships not Fantasy ones,
and not so interested in building.

I'll keep watching in hopes.

[ProperStranger]

I was thinking the same as Rogger76 even before I read his suggestion... it would be great to have access to a default library of pre-built ships so users don't have to make them all from scratch.

It would also be really cool then to be able to modify them and save them under a new name with our own tweaks, or to share with others.

[Lestrad]

Originally posted by DARTIS:

very closely

And there in lies the entire issue. "Very closely" does not equate "perfect/exact replica". Especially when both Yamato videos I've seen on the game immediately issue such disclaimers "sort of" and "kinda" on their very inaccurate Yamato builds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Swc9a85WMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJsIrb8sgVU

Even the HMS Dreadnought video issues the disclaimer "(Kinda)" in the title to their video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uAolP-_RIk

And, for the record, THIS is Yamato:

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-89ffd/images/stencil/2048x2048/products/59313/204061/4950344780259_4883c38f448ceb77d0e22dff07e31919__34967.1565245231.jpg?c=2

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Replicating the most legendary vessels to ever rule the waves is serious buisness. These ships are legends. Bismarck and Tirpitz maybe the same battleship class, but they had very different camouflage patterns (Tirpitz actually having two different ones and two different points). Are you going to include all three? Are you going to include both variants of the Fusou and the Ise (Battleship and Aviation Battleship) hulls? Will ships like the Nagato-class and Yamato-class have the cold Chrysanthemum on their bows?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c8/35/e8/c835e804e076b89c0f830be09fe3584a.jpg

[Alexander]

No premade historical ships does sound rather disappointing. I must admit I'm not too interested in creating my own fantasy ships.

[OOM-911]

To be more specific to the developer and a BIT more fair I think the thing everyone is asking over all basically comes down to this:

When the game comes out and we have the save feature for ship designs will there be a list of historically accurate ships already saved in said list (In some form or another.) So people can just use those if they want to...

[NorellaAngell]

If you are going to make a game called 'Ultimate Admiral: DREADNOUGHTS' you would at least beable to make the HMS Dreadnought...but not at this point.

Watch YouTube vids carefully as this game is very much a work in progress and this developer has a checkerboard past with game development.

[DarkTerren]

Originally posted by norellaangell:

If you are going to make a game called 'Ultimate Admiral: DREADNOUGHTS' you would at least beable to make the HMS Dreadnought...but not at this point.

Watch YouTube vids carefully as this game is very much a work in progress and this developer has a checkerboard past with game development.

wheres the checkered past
both ultimate generals Gettysburg and civil war are great game.

[Repteel]

What ships does the ai use? Are they prefabed by game labs or is there a random ship generator if there is no historical ships?

[Tiki Bar Ted]

just my take on it,

First of all, it's early days yet. Although right now the algorithms don't add up for exact matches using game parameters, I would hope they will by release.

The building function isn't laborious, it takes about 10 minutes to assemble a ship by selecting all available parameters. Later, we'll be able to save the build, and I expect there will be a way to share those via the workshop.

Right now, the game assembles ships "on the fly" for each of the engagements, by full release, the game may select opponent ships from saved designs, although I would hope that it would react to your design philosophy, and not just plod along the historical path. What if, for instance, you as the US Navy completed South Carolina and Michigan in 1903. Would you expect the AI to continue with Pre-dreadnoughts until 1906 or 1907?

Would Germany build battlecruisers if no one else did?

The game is about directing the design and build effort as much as anything else. If you're after a simulator for historic battles only, this may not be your cup of tea.

[Blitzkrieg_HOSS]

Could make a workshop for it and have a few contests for historical ships to be added into an official pre-made selection.