Bugs and other problems

[Wasabi]

First
I have now 11000 arrows, and I produced only about 200 or 300. But everytime I create a war band with bow and arrows. 30 arrows each warrior, after a fight they have sometimes three times the amount of arrows or more.
And if I give them Medium arrows, they still add normal arrows to their inventary. They loose some of the medium arrows and get 3 times as many normal arrows.
Second
I spend most of the time chasing gold diggers send by enemy, because those take different routes and if they hit one of my camps, where the warriors are collecting and only 1 warrior left to defend, they kill him and destroy my camp, taking all goods or destroying them. Then they kill each warrior coming home to this camp.
At the moment these gold diggers are 4 to 6 men strong and have 12 shooter rifles 32 amunition. It i kill them, just a few minutes later my enemy send the next, and because of fog of war I don´t see them and as I said they don´t take roads.
Third
Another thing is -I see single unarmed men running without getting exhausted to a farm.
I chase them as well taking time again, as I don´t know if they report where my camps are.
Four
I still don´t understand how I upgrade my warriors to better fighters and if I do how can I see any diffence to before? The order to collect weapons and amunition is useless, as the weapons are to heavy for them - so they just collect meat or equal useless stuff.
I just take them with me to cover me from the sharp shooter enemies.
I stick arrows into them so they look like porcupines and they still walk but I get knocked out by 2 good shoots.
Fifth
savegame - please change something there. Now you save at the camp fire but what is the use of that, when you can´t use that savegame to try a mistake again.
Youre knocked out and a new save game is created. So why save any way - if you can´t use that?

[Peter Brev]

Thanks for this list!

[Kamikaze762]

You can alleviate some of the loss to your camp from those random attacks by setting the guard count higher. It is a slider under Orders on the camp menu. But yes, wood and gold gatherers will come from all the way across the map no matter how many times you kill them, always catching a handful of gatherers before you have time to respond. It is super annoying because warriors are not easy to replace and yet there seems to be no way to keep them out of harms way unless you sit and watch the map the whole time. It would seem like pushing the front back would be sufficient, but no, they don't care if they are deep in savage country. They need to allow players to respond to this somehow without constantly losing people. The only way I can figure to stop this is to set up camps along every road connecting to the resource or moving away from it entirely. If you set up all those camps though, you have to idle your warriors at them and there are never enough people for all that.

[Wasabi]

Next update:
I destroyed the water tower. The debris blocked the rail. After some time a train came and armed enemies tryied to unblock the rail, I killed them all.
Another train arrived stoped behind the first, all enemies where unarmed, as I remember. The train had two wagon - I only could open with a key. As I didn´t find one, I bought in online shop. Inside the wagon where some warrior they ran to join nearby camp.
I returned to my next camp, espablished a new war band and went back to the two trains.
they where gone, but one destroyed train from opposite side was there. No enemies.
Nearby wood camp I cleared, but could destroy as some where one of camp people was , I don´t know where.
And now another funny thing some settlers came to my camp, go to the fire place got porcupine shot, take a bow out of my camp to defend and die.
This same thing happens over and over again.
I searched the area to find unbelievable settlers unarmed running around and got killed by me and my war band, but no war points came up.
I chased them and killed about 25 to 30 but they where like rabbits always shouting, gards the enemy is here.
And my enemy city I didn´t find up to now, increases 2 or 3 areas at a time, also created another city that is also expanding like hell.
I have no time to enjoy the game as the gold diggers, lead diggers, wood collectors and settlers are like flies and keep me hopping from one camp to another to defend.
I think this game has micromanagement, like creating, upgrading or buying, but this takes too much time, the enemy uses to spread. My warriors are just usefull to kill and protect me.
Alone in a camp they get slaughtered, no matter what good rifle you give them.
Lost 7 warriors against 3 gold diggers. Diggers took the horses and attacked another camp on the way.
In my home base I have 89000 stuff / 200 different articles and I just use about 10 articles of it,
there is no time and experience to go deeper into invention and creation.
I realy don´t know how to carry on. I tried to attack the rail way station, but what the hell,
there where 30 or 40 enemies and I got slaughtered

[Uhtavio "Big Score" Scorandum]

It seems like you either play way too slow, or you're just not that good at the game. Build your camps right on top of the mines and lumber yards where they constantly send gangs and keep your whole camp on guard mode. Then try going to enemy camps at night with that gun that shoots darts and just take out the guards, loot them, and intimidate them. Then go around to all the sleeping people and grab/loot/intimidate them. It gets wicked easy when you play smart.

[Wasabi]

Nice try, I don´t think thats the problem,
- the gain of SP is far too slow too do all neccessary upgrades. But I don´t want to plunder my online SP.
warriors at the start carry 15 Kg, a weapon weighs 10 and arrow 0,1 and a bow 6.
no more space too plunder. horse carries 70 no upgrade here. You spend 20000 to make your warriors carry 22. You get in game not much SP.
I have seen bow warriors putting 20 arrows into a enemy, not the wooden one, and those bastards won´t dy.
- when you eliminate an enemies camp, you just guess where it was. You can´t scroll.
- when you kill an enemy in field, you search for the body to loot.
- If you dont destroy camps just plunder, they fill up after some time.
- Enmies detection is very tricky. They sometimes run so fast, you can´t catch up on foot.
But on horse they see you easy. Sometimes the red dot disappears to light up in an other direction.
Any way I like the game, but some work still to be done.

You said play too slow. I didn´t but the amount of warriors you gain is a factor that in every game is diffent. I had one, where every month a prisoners wagon made rest at a station and let the horses and wagon ungarded. I could take horses and the prisoners. Always 3-7 horses and 4 warriors. Sometimes my warriors didn´t take horses that where standing right in front of them.
In my game now, I didn´t see one prisoner wagon that contains warriors. Even in a prisoners camp at one time there where just empty cells.

[Wasabi]

add on:
Started a new game, but it is useless. I am too weak, one blow with the fist and I am gone.
Tried 3 times to invade the camp, got one sinew from dead warrior, 20 arrows. My warriors have wooden bows and wooden arrows. Enemy after 5 days increased both cities areas.
I am hunting the killer. But neither my sneaking is good nor have I any detection.
No connection to server, so I can´t get SP from there.
I quite untill an major update.

[Uhtavio "Big Score" Scorandum]

The problem is obviously you. because I play and don't have any of these problems. You just haven't figured out the mechanics of the game yet, and it seems like you're far too busy complaining to make an effort to learn. Please just *quit complaining instead of quitting the game. Use the stun darts and the gun with the scope to knock out enemies, then intimidate them and get the SP. have your tribe collect resources to build war bows and heavy arrows and get the SP from crafting those. Make an effort to complete SOCIAL challenges and collect the SP from that. You're biggest problem is that you're stuck in your ways and not trying. You have no creativity.

[Wasabi]

Red_Dredd - wow, I knew there are people like you out there, but I thought they are far more to the east and killing innocent. Sorry but your name is ♥♥♥♥ in these times.
No I am not complaining, I am helping to make this game a better one.
Just to point another problem:
- there are some camp fires too near to "walls", so that warriors appear between camp fire and wall, and are stuck.
- the railroad camp has a ramp that is half over the rail way.
- still my warriors increase the amount of arrows they carry, so they are fully equiped with 1 bow and hundreds of arrows. No space left. And they started with 25. But when they go search for amunition that is increased some how. Maybe every warrior picks up the same arrow twice or three times.
till next time, bye

[Wasabi]

update:
I just died (knocked down) by falling behind the screen.
What happened, I was driving a wagon up an hill I thought might work. But the horses disappeared in the hill and wagon got stuck. I jumped of the wagon in the hope the wagon will get free, like the horses sometime do. But I fell into a blue screen and landed knocked down at some camp fire. Than the screen went black: You were knocked down - it says.

[Uhtavio "Big Score" Scorandum]

How many hours do you have on this game? Mind making your profile public so we can see instead of just taking your word for it?

[Wasabi]

272 hours

[Wasabi]

Problem - path-finding of warriors and my horse. Stop horses going into houses.
Problem - how to fix broken wagon or shot carriage horses.
Problem - warriors sometimes when attacked in camp by city guard - they don´t take best weapon to defend - instead they get stuck next to a tent and where shot one by one. This maybe has to do with pathfinding too. Shortest way to inventory of camp is through that tent and they get stuck.

[Wasabi]

I experienced following: I gave a camp 5 Sinew bows - each for every warrior in the camp.
They started to collect. Then I needed those warriors quick, so I activated the smoke signal.
the warriors returned to camp. But 4 bows are gone, only the bow that didn´t leave the camp, stuck with warrior on watch was left.

[Qióng]

Not sure if this is posted already, but what I did was create a center camp with camps surrounding it, that camp does all the foraging with defensive camps all around it.
If I need horses I send them in groups of 3 to take horses in defensive villages.
Grocery increases warrior level but new warriors to that camp reduce the average level of the warriors in that camp. I hide alot when I encounter the enemy and use an eagle bow to head shot and it takes one shot, taking my time and studying their movement.
Hope some of this helps.

[Wasabi]

Qiong - this may help - but I point out bug experiences.
like this one: I have a 15 warrior camp with 1 warrior and 8 horses. I jump to this camp with my 16 warrior on horse back, we stole in some fights.
Due to the bug with arrows my 16 warriors all are overloaded. To release them from that weight I send them to this camp. This make the camp over crowded for Nano Seconds.
I take 8 back as warrior pack. Leaving 8 in that camp.
This now should have 9 warriors and 8 + 16 horses = 24 horses.
But 8 horses disappear. Leaving 16 .

Long arrow - you need a iron warhead, up to now I could find 22. I didn´t catch how to invent iron arrow heads. I got lead, I got iron, maybe some has found a clue.