Endgame turns into a cluster****

[The Big Burrito]

I have been enjoying this game for the past week or so, and was having fun building up my tribe and have basically taken over the entire map. Right now I'm at 90% "my land".

Unfortunately, the game has become unplayable for me. The "white man" controls 0 towns / settlements / farms etc, yet there are hordes of "town patrols". Every time a new town pops up (which hilariously is 2 seconds after you take out the previous town) I destroy them. So there is no "town" for most of these patrols.

These patrols then hit my settlements, and kill my patrols, which are stocked with all 2 & 3 level warriors and top end guns.

So basically, I am just having to teleport to my settlements and deal with onslaughts of enemies, and my warriors are getting destroyed. And now that there are no more settlements to take, I can't keep up with the rate that my warriors are being killed, since the primary way to get more braves is to take towns and settlements.

I am beyond frustrated. I don't have any desire to keep playing this game. I have read all the guides & wikis I can to deal with this situation. I am at max reputation, I had 250 warriors until ONE town patrol killed 100 of my warriors.

I can forgive the jankyness of the mechanics, but I can't forgive how unfun they make the game when you should be dominating. There is no excuse for how bad this game is after you get about mid-game.

[bkrrrrr]

Yes, you should always be teleporting into your camps to help them deal with enemies. Never trust your AI to win without you - they do not make smart decisions, and YOU are the player anyways so you're supposed to be involved. When you get control of most of the map the enemy will start throwing cavalry at you and try to create new towns and send patrols to protect them. That's the way it's supposed to work - the further you get the harder it can be if you haven't prepared. Don't try to gain territory too fast. Isolate the towns but don't destroy them, build up your camps to max warriors or more with the best weapons, and farm the settlers down to a manageable level.

[The Big Burrito]

Originally posted by bkrrrrr:

Yes, you should always be teleporting into your camps to help them deal with enemies. Never trust your AI to win without you - they do not make smart decisions, and YOU are the player anyways so you're supposed to be involved. When you get control of most of the map the enemy will start throwing cavalry at you and try to create new towns and send patrols to protect them. That's the way it's supposed to work - the further you get the harder it can be if you haven't prepared. Don't try to gain territory too fast. Isolate the towns but don't destroy them, build up your camps to max warriors or more with the best weapons, and farm the settlers down to a manageable level.

Look at you, making excuses for lazy, poor, illogical game design. Always a d rider for the devs out there.

[Malak]

I agree with you, but you don't need anyone but yourself in this game. I never even use warparties.

[tortuga]

Originally posted by Malak:

I agree with you, but you don't need anyone but yourself in this game. I never even use warparties.

I don't either they always go crazy, I leave them to defend or look for items but, give them the best weapons I have.
Sorry to say but, like Big Burrito the game doesn't play fair at all, the better you do the game begins to stop functioning normal and drops animals or enemy like crazy when the map doesn't show anything near you. And not just one or two patrols but, 3,4,5, one right after another. Expecially after you accept a peace treaty, then 6months later all hell breaks loose,

Another example... was just now attacking a location with a lot of enemy and then a partrol arrived and that is ok but, I would shoot the first few of them with arrows at point blank range and kill them but then the arrows would do no damage but, they kept on firing and caused damage to me and finally killed me.

Same thing happens when I use toxic arrows the first 5 or 6 get dropped and then the arrows have no affect at all. It is so frustrating at times you just have to expect and know the game cheats or tries to "gets even" when you do well.

So, bkrrrrr...Harder is ok and I am ok with being over whelmed by their numbers but, that the game permits the enemy and their weapons to always function but, makes mine non functional that is the pits and is cheating.

And I am not even talking about how the game degrades your weapons but, how they just stop functioning completely.

[Malak]

I do wish the weapons would show wear instead of random breakage in the middle of battle.

Also their aim with guns is kinda ridic. I just retreat when things start going badly and sometimes I die, but less and less often now.

[Bitmiko]

I am a bit slow when it comes to playing this game. I always make sure that my camps max out so that if they've been attacked I can teleport and join them in defending. I'm okay losing some camps in the process as I can always rebuild, 90% of the land is already an achievement. If you are aiming for 100% you'll just have to work on it but there is always an option to start a new resistance and increase the difficulty to be able to apply what you have learned on your previous resistance.

[tortuga]

Originally posted by Malak:

I do wish the weapons would show wear instead of random breakage in the middle of battle.

Also their aim with guns is kinda ridic. I just retreat when things start going badly and sometimes I die, but less and less often now.

Another think, pay attention to how fast the enemy shoots, as fast as they can pull the trigger but, how fast can you fire? More than just a little unbalanced on being able to fire as fast as the enemy with the same weapon.

[Malak]

Well the enemy rarely uses a bow, so I would not know.

[Know Won]

programmers have long cheated by using artificial means to prolong play, would not surprise me if ai is programmed to 'cheat' lol

[tortuga]

Originally posted by dreykken2:

programmers have long cheated by using artificial means to prolong play, would not surprise me if ai is programmed to 'cheat' lol

Well, unless it is a bug???? There is a lot of what looks like cheating to me, when after killing 4 or 5 enemy, the arrows don't do anything, just today it happened again, killed a few and the other guys just charged me all the while I was shooting them with heavy arrows at point blank range and it did nothing, all I could do was run away before they over ran me.

[Malak]

There are high enough guys that need 6-7 med arrows each to kill. The trick is to almost never be seen. Sneak up at night and place bush hideouts. The first night and second nights I mainly kill horses and whatever guys I can get. When the heat is too high I retreat. Rinse and Repeat nightly till near zero guys outside. Then you can make a break for the open gate or blow it open at night. Run off to either side and slap down another bush hideout and pick them off till it says you can BURN it! Muahahaha

[tortuga]

Originally posted by Malak:

There are high enough guys that need 6-7 med arrows each to kill. The trick is to almost never be seen. Sneak up at night and place bush hideouts. The first night and second nights I mainly kill horses and whatever guys I can get. When the heat is too high I retreat. Rinse and Repeat nightly till near zero guys outside. Then you can make a break for the open gate or blow it open at night. Run off to either side and slap down another bush hideout and pick them off till it says you can BURN it! Muahahaha

Understant there are some you need to shoot more than others to kill, but each time you hit them there is some reaction from them when hit. What I am saying is the arrows just pass through them and registeres no effect on them. It is as though you are just shooting into the air!

Normally with heavy arrows it is a one shot kill although have see times it takes more. And toxic always is one shot to drop them. But, when shooting point blank with either arrow and it does nothing....well something is messed up!

In over 1400hrs have seen this happen all the time as a standard operation of the game. I have made this comment many times in other post, it is as though the game is set up to protect it's self against anyone who does well.

Another example,there will be nothing on the map but, you wipe out a patrol, fort or other large group watch your back because the game always drops animals or troops from out of no where, right on top of you to counter the win you just had. And that is ok, I have learned to expect this to happen.

But, the arrow deal makes it very frustrating when you sneak in plan your attack and then your weapon has no effect and has been the cause of my getting knocked down the majority of times.

[Malak]

^ Maybe just a glitch with Heavy arrows? Try Med. Literally never had either thing happen. Sure, your aim is good? I mean I take out each town in a few days before it ever gets to 20%.

[Mollymawk]

It may have changed since i last played but:

multiple shots to kill people? are you going for head shots or not? Everyone used to go down with 1 arrow in the head. Always shoot people in the head. too far? get closer then shoot them in the head. better still throw a stone at their head. that way you don't actually need to carry weapons.

goto to the last town solo, kill everyone bar 1 person.. that slows them down.. giving you some time. don't kill the last one and don't burn it down. don't fast travel. find a safe spot, manage your troops on the map.

It may have changed, but at this stage of the game I would stop all patrols. light all the smoke signals and once i have 40-50 in a camp send them after the patrols, do that with all the camps and pretty soon you can have 100+ braves hitting patrols from different directions.

Even before this end game stage, I would have 1/4 of all camps with the smoke signal lit ready to jump on anyone coming towards my map area. Your Patrols are too random. much better to command an army to hit a specific target. Also patrols would sometimes take ages to return, or take on bad choice targets, like walking into 3 patrols at the same time..

[Malak]

I try to always shoot from cover if at all possible because I hate dying in a game. So what if it takes 7 arrows? After they are dead you can get them all back, hence why you use Med Arrows only. :-D