Terrible performance on Ryzen 5 2600 + GTX 1080

[Vichi]

I have a Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1080, 16gb RAM.

Game gets random FPS drops, and no matter what graphic setting (lowest, low, medium, high, ultra), my GPU will hit 82c degrees.

Tweaks in this area are required.

[Natalino]

Originally posted by Vichi:

I have a Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1080, 16gb RAM.

Game gets random FPS drops, and no matter what graphic setting (lowest, low, medium, high, ultra), my GPU will hit 82c degrees.

Tweaks in this area are required.

Are you playing on a laptop? Do you have sufficient cooling?

The reason for the FPS drops is thermal throttling. Meaning your system is decreasing the "effort" due to overheating of the system. It is not the game that is losing FPS, the system is just taking down the use of resources when it starts to overheat. Fixing the overheating issue will fix the FPS issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUyuKqIfMN0

[Vichi]

Originally posted by Natalino:

Originally posted by Vichi:

I have a Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1080, 16gb RAM.

Game gets random FPS drops, and no matter what graphic setting (lowest, low, medium, high, ultra), my GPU will hit 82c degrees.

Tweaks in this area are required.

Are you playing on a laptop? Do you have sufficient cooling?

The reason for the FPS drops is thermal throttling. Meaning your system is decreasing the "effort" due to overheating of the system. It is not the game that is losing FPS, the system is just taking down the use of resources when it starts to overheat. Fixing the overheating issue will fix the FPS issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUyuKqIfMN0

I have a water cooling system pal.

I do not have such issues playing Gears 5, RDR2, GTA5, The Outer Worlds, No Man's Sky, Satisfactory, just to call out some examples. These mentioned games do get to 82c degrees (in high/ultea settings), but will remain at 60 fps, with some minor drops in specific areas AND will lower temps when being downgraded to lower graphic settings.

Don't put me in the thermal throttling basket. I don't use a laptop. It's about optimization.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Some of the latest 2 updates made the game a little worse regarding performance, i noticed something havening too, i have Ryzen 5 2600 and amd 5700 rx and it's not running well now, nothing is over 60% or high temperature, just...laggy

[Vichi]

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

Some of the latest 2 updates made the game a little worse regarding performance, i noticed something havening too, i have Ryzen 5 2600 and amd 5700 rx and it's not running well now, nothing is over 60% or high temperature, just...laggy

My high temps are only related to the GPU, but it doesn't reallye matter to me, what I mean is, that even with lowest, low, and mid graphic settings I shouldn't be getting FPS slips or high temps.

[GObonzo]

Originally posted by Vichi:

I have a water cooling system pal.
I do not have such issues playing Gears 5, RDR2, GTA5, The Outer Worlds, No Man's Sky, Satisfactory, just to call out some examples. These mentioned games do get to 82c degrees (in high/ultea settings), but will remain at 60 fps, with some minor drops in specific areas AND will lower temps when being downgraded to lower graphic settings...

i agree the game has some optimization issues so far. but considering it's still early access, we'll just be hoping the final retail release is performing better.
even so, my temps stay in good ranges never reaching over 65° with my GPU and never even reaching 60° with my CPU. all settings maxed in this game @ 1440p sitting ~70fps on average now. still some hiccups and stuttering in random areas.
in much more demanding games i usually get higher fps with zero issues, still never passing 65° with either CPU or GPU.

you haven't said what type of "water cooling system". this could be a hybrid GPU, an AIO CPU cooler or a system wide custom loop. if the temps are only related to the GPU, having a liquid cooled CPU should have nothing to do with these temps.

but those are terrible temps you are hitting with all of the games. you should seriously research how to setup some decent airflow through your case and make sure your GPU fans are setup with a good fan curve or just set at static max speeds. also make sure this water cooler you're using is setup correctly. it could be pushing hot air directly into your GPU if not.
unless you've manually configured both system and GPU BIOS to disregard high temperatures you would be suffering from some serious thermal throttling @ 80°.
even if you're happy with the performance you're getting in other games, fixing this temperature issue should still get you much better performance in all of the games mentioned and any others.

[Natalino]

^^ That

[Vichi]

Originally posted by GObonzo:

Originally posted by Vichi:

I have a water cooling system pal.
I do not have such issues playing Gears 5, RDR2, GTA5, The Outer Worlds, No Man's Sky, Satisfactory, just to call out some examples. These mentioned games do get to 82c degrees (in high/ultea settings), but will remain at 60 fps, with some minor drops in specific areas AND will lower temps when being downgraded to lower graphic settings...

i agree the game has some optimization issues so far. but considering it's still early access, we'll just be hoping the final retail release is performing better.
even so, my temps stay in good ranges never reaching over 65° with my GPU and never even reaching 60° with my CPU. all settings maxed in this game @ 1440p sitting ~70fps on average now. still some hiccups and stuttering in random areas.
in much more demanding games i usually get higher fps with zero issues, still never passing 65° with either CPU or GPU.

you haven't said what type of "water cooling system". this could be a hybrid GPU, an AIO CPU cooler or a system wide custom loop. if the temps are only related to the GPU, having a liquid cooled CPU should have nothing to do with these temps.

but those are terrible temps you are hitting with all of the games. you should seriously research how to setup some decent airflow through your case and make sure your GPU fans are setup with a good fan curve or just set at static max speeds. also make sure this water cooler you're using is setup correctly. it could be pushing hot air directly into your GPU if not.
unless you've manually configured both system and GPU BIOS to disregard high temperatures you would be suffering from some serious thermal throttling @ 80°.
even if you're happy with the performance you're getting in other games, fixing this temperature issue should still get you much better performance in all of the games mentioned and any others.

Hey, thanks so much for this explanation, I find it real interesting.

My CPU is never hot. My GPU instead, gets to 82c degrees (never goes higher than that no matter what game and what graphic conf).

But, it doesnt always does, only when heavy games, like GTA 5, RDR2, or badly optimized games are running in ultra or high settings (I have a GTX 1080).

Also, the water cooling is only in the CPU, but not the GPU, which uses its stock fans. I also have 2 fans putting air in, and 1 taking it out, plus the fan on the water cooling system.

[MaxKool007]

Originally posted by Vichi:

Originally posted by GObonzo:

i agree the game has some optimization issues so far. but considering it's still early access, we'll just be hoping the final retail release is performing better.
even so, my temps stay in good ranges never reaching over 65° with my GPU and never even reaching 60° with my CPU. all settings maxed in this game @ 1440p sitting ~70fps on average now. still some hiccups and stuttering in random areas.
in much more demanding games i usually get higher fps with zero issues, still never passing 65° with either CPU or GPU.

you haven't said what type of "water cooling system". this could be a hybrid GPU, an AIO CPU cooler or a system wide custom loop. if the temps are only related to the GPU, having a liquid cooled CPU should have nothing to do with these temps.

but those are terrible temps you are hitting with all of the games. you should seriously research how to setup some decent airflow through your case and make sure your GPU fans are setup with a good fan curve or just set at static max speeds. also make sure this water cooler you're using is setup correctly. it could be pushing hot air directly into your GPU if not.
unless you've manually configured both system and GPU BIOS to disregard high temperatures you would be suffering from some serious thermal throttling @ 80°.
even if you're happy with the performance you're getting in other games, fixing this temperature issue should still get you much better performance in all of the games mentioned and any others.

Hey, thanks so much for this explanation, I find it real interesting.

My CPU is never hot. My GPU instead, gets to 82c degrees (never goes higher than that no matter what game and what graphic conf).

But, it doesnt always does, only when heavy games, like GTA 5, RDR2, or badly optimized games are running in ultra or high settings (I have a GTX 1080).

Also, the water cooling is only in the CPU, but not the GPU, which uses its stock fans. I also have 2 fans putting air in, and 1 taking it out, plus the fan on the water cooling system.

If your GPU is hitting 82 thats hot dude. Thats really hot. My 2080TI playing Kingdom come on a mix of ultra/high at 4k Doesnt get above 67 with a custom fan curve. You have some airflow problems if you are hitting 80+ regularly with your GPU.
Watercooling a CPU honestly doesnt do that much these days. I have had both my CPU and my GPU on water and while its nice, with Ryzen Chips i dont really get much but cooler temps with it. My GPU on the other hand when I had my water on it never got above 40deg and boosted max 24/7

So yah, Post more info but my guess is a mix of just early access issues , AND your GPU is over heating. If its hitting 83, its hitting 85 and throlttling down to 83.....

[Tattoo]

Try moving the settings to medium and turning motion blur off.
My rig has GTX1660 (6gb vram) with 3.5 ghz multi-core and only 8gb ram, fps is a constant 50-70.

[60_Thou]

82c for a 1080 is not a problem. 90c & up might be a problem, because the maximum temperature is 94c for the 1080. At about 82c (84c for a 1080ti) the card will start throttling down, so at this temp your card is throttling. It's just doing what it's meant to do :)

If the temp worries you, then try to increase airflow to the card, try water cooling, more aggressive fan curve, replace thermal paste if the card is a bit older (factory thermal paste isn't usually great), etc

Weird, that no matter what game settings your hitting 82c. Maybe run some presets (or a stress test) with FurMark just to rule the card out ;)

[littlehorn]

my specs are in my bio, but my radeon vega 64 single blower air cooled gets around 50 degrees to 60 degrees with custom fan profile (usually full speed after 45 degrees celcius). my card is designed way hotter than your nvidia card. not throwing bombs or insults at you, just saying.. perhaps it's your fan settings (or even your gpu fan dying). the game does run the hardware but it does look good too. 80 degrees celcius is like pentium 4 heat on stock cooler dude. you're going to burn out your unit before its' due time.