Driina can't equip the rat queen's armor?

[Paladin Larec]

I know it's rated as heavy (Why Kat wants it when she can't even wear it is beyond me) but I waited for her to level and put a point into heavy armor and she still can't wear it. Says that heavy armor can't be equipped by this class. Yet there's a heavy armor skill? Do I need to get all 3 heavy armor skills? Probably not worth it after all if that's the case. I'd rather her buff and heal.

[Caaaameron]

I also thought that was a problem. Hospitallers can sink 3 feats into Heavy Armour Expert, yet they cannot equip Heavy Armour.

[Paladin Larec]

Publicado originalmente por Caaaameron:

I also thought that was a problem. Hospitallers can sink 3 feats into Heavy Armour Expert, yet they cannot equip Heavy Armour.

I ended up giving it to Iago after I freed him. Something about him of all people wearing her armor. I bet she'd just love that. Still, yeah, definitely a bug.

[Ace-Of-Blades]

Publicado originalmente por Caaaameron:

I also thought that was a problem. Hospitallers can sink 3 feats into Heavy Armour Expert, yet they cannot equip Heavy Armour.

Yeah, just realized this myself, right after putting three points in to Heavy Armor for Driina. I guess I'm reloading.

[rgoodness]

Aww...I'm sorry you all ran into this issue, but I just noticed this myself and you all saved me from making the same mistake. More toys for my main (Officer) I guess!

[Luvas]

Hi! There are any consequences in stealing her armor?

[gallaghan2000]

So far no, and as of 1.0.5 she should be able to wear heavy armor (it was a bug). Also, another major reason why I hate double gates on equipment (both gm statement and skill block limitations). If he kept it as a skill or stat thing like he should have, this bug wouldn't have happened.

[justplainzer0]

Publicado originalmente por gallaghan2000:

So far no, and as of 1.0.5 she should be able to wear heavy armor (it was a bug). Also, another major reason why I hate double gates on equipment (both gm statement and skill block limitations). If he kept it as a skill or stat thing like he should have, this bug wouldn't have happened.

Except that the armor feats aren't a gate?

Like, all they do is reduce your encumbrance with the armor, they don't affect your ability to wear it or not at all, that's entirely decided by your class. Like if there was a bug where the Thief couldn't wear light armor, would you assume it was because they had a Light Armor Use feat tree that they don't need to take to wear light armor in the first place? C'mon.

Yes, double gates are dumb, but it's not double-gated. It was a bug and it was addressed. Criticism is good but maybe refrain from telling designers what they "should have" done when you don't even understand what they actually did.

[gallaghan2000]

Publicado originalmente por justplainzer0:

Publicado originalmente por gallaghan2000:

So far no, and as of 1.0.5 she should be able to wear heavy armor (it was a bug). Also, another major reason why I hate double gates on equipment (both gm statement and skill block limitations). If he kept it as a skill or stat thing like he should have, this bug wouldn't have happened.

Except that the armor feats aren't a gate?

Like, all they do is reduce your encumbrance with the armor, they don't affect your ability to wear it or not at all, that's entirely decided by your class. Like if there was a bug where the Thief couldn't wear light armor, would you assume it was because they had a Light Armor Use feat tree that they don't need to take to wear light armor in the first place? C'mon.

Yes, double gates are dumb, but it's not double-gated. It was a bug and it was addressed. Criticism is good but maybe refrain from telling designers what they "should have" done when you don't even understand what they actually did.

Considering that I've been playing this game through the various demos since before armor was even locked into classes, please refrain from insulting my intelligence by saying that I don't understand what he did.

If there wasn't three separate armor blocks I might have agreed with you, but it boils down to:
1) He mandated classes have access to certain weapons and armor.
2) he limited feat points so that you can't get everything (I don't have a problem with this one).
3) he separated armor into light, medium, and heavy after already mandating it and in most cases treeing them after each other (which is the only thing that makes 2 bad). The only ones who don't have to worry about the light tree are generally the hybrid classes.
4) light block is effectively redundant. with any luck what so ever as most magic light armor I've found has no encumbrance.
5) if it wasn't double gated encumbrance wouldn't penalize dodge, necessitating points in the appropriate block to lower that penalty.
Which means that the only reason to command from on high the armor limitations, instead of assigning armor blocks that allow the use of any given armor with the first point, is because: 'mah classses.'

Thus, double gated.

In short, he over thought everything.

[Ninth Hour]

As mentioned, this issue is now fixed. However, the way in which you can simply walk into her quarters and take it, with impunity, stretches credibility,

It is obviously a valuable piece of equipment, yet it's just displayed there, out in the open, with no locks or guards of any sort. And even more incredible is that you can equip it, talk to the Rat Queen, and get no reaction from her whatsoever.

[gallaghan2000]

Publicado originalmente por Ninth Hour:

As mentioned, this issue is now fixed. However, the way in which you can simply walk into her quarters and take it, with impunity, stretches credibility,

It is obviously a valuable piece of equipment, yet it's just displayed there, out in the open, with no locks or guards of any sort. And even more incredible is that you can equip it, talk to the Rat Queen, and get no reaction from her whatsoever.

Agreed.