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itsmirian Mar 15 @ 6:01am
Cheaters
does anyone know how often people cheat in this game? some qualify with absurd lap times, you watch them race and it will not match qualifying lap times. you might do fine lap but there is always smn 10 seconds ahead of you. would love to hear your opinions
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Rodrigo Faustino Mar 15 @ 6:32am 
I have seen many weird things like that. I think that is not hard to cheat in this game, but i can't confirm how
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[SRS13]Rastus(TTT) Mar 15 @ 7:49am 
Couldn't say but I'd be surprised if there were none at all.
Have I had any suspicions?
Yeah seen some weird laptimes then the driver disappears.
Having said that I have had a timing glitch caused by forgetting I'd overclocked my Motherboards base clock for a benchmarking session and didn't reset it.
It meant if I joined a session for the 1st 5-6 minutes all cars would appear to run off track and there was hideous stuttering. It'd settle down after that.
If I went out and set a lap before this stabilised then I'd get a timing glitch in sector 1, around 3 seconds faster than is possible.
As soon as it WAS stable? The laptime glitch disappeared.
Lasted about 2 days cause I was thinking my PC was about to croak!
Then when I realised the cause..... :steamfacepalm:
And FYI this didn't cause race pace improvements it'd just screw up qualifying.

Back to cheating in AMS2? It's definitely possible, way I look at it is they're only cheating themselves.
Been accused myself many times, both in AMS2 and other games, hell one nugget called me a "No skill setup hacker" on my profile just last week cause he blamed me for using a car setup in a public lobby whilst he was using default only then raging at all of us that beat him on track and calling us cheaters for tuning the cars... WTH?!?!?!?!
Someone beat me to the obvious "Why are you in a lobby with tuning allowed then?" comment..
Have I EVER used a cheat? once in a single player game which was immediately ruined as it was no longer a challenge... It was instantly boring in the extreme...
I don't see the point in cheating, 30+ years of racing in games and I've invariably found that, the most fun is ALWAYS those battles with an equally skilled opponent, where you're pushing each other to the limits and beyond.
All because you BOTH know it's been earned the hard way...
https://youtu.be/wPf6N3bsLk4?si=QuXTOhYSsFSwtd8j
https://youtu.be/8DWnkFnRpxA?si=dutxbSbV_cc7UeHp
https://youtu.be/9QTebONtr04?si=Sl11jZCewyA54gnZ

Winning or losing matters, but having a battle all the way makes it more interesting, Cheating denies you that entire experience....
You won a race but at what price in the long run?
I'd rather keep my self respect and fight a fair fight...
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Mick C Mar 15 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by itsmirian:
does anyone know how often people cheat in this game? some qualify with absurd lap times, you watch them race and it will not match qualifying lap times. you might do fine lap but there is always smn 10 seconds ahead of you. would love to hear your opinions
there are always people trying to cheat, its part of the Sinful ways of man.
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itsmirian Mar 15 @ 12:12pm 
i have an idea. i suggest we google best lap times let say, bathurst on gt3 cars and compare them while in multiplayer. i have strong suspicion these cheaters can not possible be faster than best out there in the real world. will record and publish them here in these comment section as i play online. thanks all for interesting info.
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leckomio Mar 15 @ 1:17pm 
Just a question, are you an esports player, i.e. are you really fast and earn your money with sim racing?
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Wolke Mar 15 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by itsmirian:
i have an idea. i suggest we google best lap times let say, bathurst on gt3 cars and compare them while in multiplayer. i have strong suspicion these cheaters can not possible be faster than best out there in the real world. will record and publish them here in these comment section as i play online. thanks all for interesting info.
you're new here, right? :D
sims are always faster than reallife, you cannot compare that.
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leckomio Mar 15 @ 1:36pm 
I guess LFM will be aware of the issue. The problem is that not every cheater exaggerates extremely, 1-2% more acceleration may be enough. No matter how good you are, it only makes you that 1-2% faster. Nobody recognizes this except an anti-cheat program. But nobody usually wants that.

You can recognize everyone else by the fact that they drive a bad line, don't make use of the track width and drive inconsistent lap times.
Last edited by leckomio; Mar 15 @ 1:45pm
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Dustezz Mar 15 @ 5:39pm 
There was someone recently that was banned from LFM for cheating he was on controller just dominating his splits.
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Rattner219 Mar 15 @ 11:21pm 
If a "sim" is faster significantly than real life ... that is called "arcade". The goal of sim makers should be replicating reality in as many metrics as hardware/software allow.
Last edited by Rattner219; Mar 15 @ 11:22pm
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itsmirian Mar 16 @ 5:04am 
In my experience, players cheat on qualifying laps and once in race most switch to default. Today i was racing at spa, this guy has unreal lap time/record and finishes 4th. If cheating is left to prosper i think this game has its days numbered.
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Augustus_V_Ren Mar 16 @ 10:38am 
While i have my doubt at times, what you mainly see beteen quali and race are extreme setups such as radiator ans brakes being basically close. if we had parc ferme a lot of qualifying sessions even on lfm would be slower and closer
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itsmirian Mar 16 @ 11:43am 
very interesting

Originally posted by Augustus_V_Ren:
While i have my doubt at times, what you mainly see beteen quali and race are extreme setups such as radiator ans brakes being basically close. if we had parc ferme a lot of qualifying sessions even on lfm would be slower and closer
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Roddy Mar 17 @ 6:48pm 
Originally posted by Rattner219:
If a "sim" is faster significantly than real life ... that is called "arcade". The goal of sim makers should be replicating reality in as many metrics as hardware/software allow.
no, it's called 'Not being afraid to die'
Sim racers can push way harder than real life due to this.
Sim racers can go wreck the car 15000 times trying to get that best laptime, with no real consequence.
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LosPollos Mar 18 @ 12:52pm 
i learn frome i racing coache´s u can watch and learn also watch and try it out like one sayd just play and u maybe dont figure out after a year maybe or watch some learn videos and maybe u will be used to it after 3 months just an example there are videos about things i ´´never´´ hear before, do u know if u put the wheels straight like after apex u will be fine the car will still go for the corner. if u start sliding put the wheels straight and steer again u will not slide straight off the track as u would when hold steering while slide with front wheels just some example tips frome coach video´s

or how is the tire supposed to go right in and fast out of the corner, maybe this is really i racing tyre physics but maybe can help in all sims idk

u want to figure out alone, but it is also funy to learn and try out spezially when it can fix driving issues

i mean who knows all this and more, maybe wins a lot will the guy who has low knowledge beat him? all the day? ppl who dont have a setup and blame it on others are surely bots. not worth speaking about this ppl its like u say, hey youre 2y old baby is slower than me <3
all i meant was if u dont know if someone is cheating u may dont reached enough knowledge
Last edited by LosPollos; Mar 18 @ 1:09pm
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