Is AMS2 decent on a controller?

[ELAKPUCKO3]

I recently got FM'23 and was really dissapointed. So I'm looking for a new game to play casualy.

Does this game support controllers? Is it any good or do you sort of need to use a wheel?

Any input is appreciated greatly.

[Chris]

Yes, this game supports controllers. I use an Xbox controller and it works fine.

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/automobilista-2-controller-settings-xbox-360-xbox-one-ps4.32134/

I use these settings and I get a really good experience with the game.

[LosPollos]

edit: i didnt see casually but i still hope this will be a usefuel threat.
i took this pretty competitive lmao.

i played it a lot with controller and i can tell, u wont be 1st online the most of the times u are not able to use the steering as indended compared with fast people on wheel.

when u make the steering slower then its fine so far but u will come to a point where it feels pointless to continue if u aim for online mode and victory

throttle and brake is better tho on the pedals,

i do not use assists only ABS but i prefer it off with controller u can lock wheels after a corner and bring control back same as in Drift games so far if u took it to far xD

u could try assists there is also steering assist but i did not try it i need to control it by myself. do not just copy settings we found out each controller performs different u also need to adjust a litle.

the best tip i got was choose wheel legacy instead of xbox controller then u need map keys like steering throttle brake cuz there is no preset for wheel legacy then u can adjust steering if u click on adjust steering in peripherals options this will change the way a car uses your steering input ( less messed up ) then set up speedsensitivity etc. for example chris has 10% throttle sensitivity this will take off 10% throttle control if u ask me deadzone low as possible unlike the car steer alone cuz of old analog stick steering sens. does nothing for me at all have it on 0 speed sensitivity 90-100 must be how fast the car steer´s on speed then comes controller damping this is important low has to fast steering u will lose grip on front wheels as in rain when u steer into a corner and u can also start a huge slide frome ´´nowhere´´ so put it high i play it on 70-80+ on 100 u cant steer.

slow steering has one bad thing after a corner when the diff goes back........just after a corner u need counter steer (steer in oposite direction) very often and if this not work like u perform a 180 controller damping is to high

cars are different u might see formel 1 or smth not fits with the exact same controller settings while other cars are ´´okay´´

u can also change car setup to make it work better with controller

400hours was not bad at all but now i need a wheel cuz this game is made for a wheel and i want to win or just stick behind someone without lose sight cuz of corners

when someone has a question or want to compare or just play with controller player tell me

[PeteR]

controller setups shadows82
cool

[LosPollos]

Originally posted by PeteR:

controller setups shadows82
cool

where do u see this setups? try mine btw

[d[-_-]b]

Controller is fine. Keep it simple.

1. Disable Steam controller input. It's a layer of input manipulation you don't want/need.
2. Learn what the settings do. Use the default XBox controller settings as a base.
3. Use Linear settings. They are sensitive, but give the best most direct response.
4. Start with these, adjust one at a time to see the effect, tweak as needed.

STEERING DEADZONE 2 [or 0]
STEERING SENSITIVITY 50 [key setting 50 = linear response]
THROTTLE DEADZONE 0
THROTTLE SENSITIVITY 50 [key setting 50 = linear response]
BRAKE DEADZONE 0
BRAKE SENSITIVITY 50 [key setting 50 = linear response]
CLUTCH DEADZONE 10
CLUTCH SENSITIVITY 25
SPEED SENSITIVITY 96 [key setting, you want small range at high speed]
CONTROLLER DAMPING 10 [key setting - keep it minimal]
CONTROLLER VIBRATION 100
MINIMUM SHIFT TIME 0
RPM/Gear Display YES
ENABLE ANALOGUE INPUTS IN MENU YES

Set assist to authentic, disable the rest.
Make small setup tweaks as needed. eg: Steering lock, ARB, brake bias.
Diffs to 60/60/2 or close to it.
Always only change one thing at a time and test to understand the effect. Rinse/repeat.

Learn to use small throttle/brake inputs together for fine control.

The closer you are to linear control with a controller the better it will be, no matter what the sim. This approach works for all: AMS2, ACC, WRC EA etc

Have fun.

[PeteR]

Originally posted by Lospollos46:

Originally posted by PeteR:

controller setups shadows82
cool

where do u see this setups? try mine btw

In Big Picture Mode, then on Controller...Community Setups

[d[-_-]b]

If you're using Steam controller setups for any racing sim you're doing it wrong.
It's not needed, and adds more complex interactions and latency to the control signal path.

Just disable it and learn to use the sim controller settings properly.

People have been advising so many different combinations of controller setups but ultimately you will have the best response going direct and going linear, while learning how to tweak the car setups as needed.

Once you understand it it's fairly easy to apply to different sims once you figure out the settings for linear control.

[Oggmeista]

is 13 seconds of the best time in the session at Le Mans, decent? (i would suggest not really) .not sure which aids were allowed at that time also the cars being used for me make a big difference in how comfortable and predictable they are to drive using a controller.. logically the slower and less powerful the better

but it's never going to be great the area of control for a wheel typically sits between 300 to 900 degrees depending on individual preference plus intelligent force feedback. , for a control pad we're lucky to have 20 degrees lock to lock, which makes precision fidelity much more difficult. ps i prefer an authentic experience so the less aids i can still drive with the better, i'm certainly not one of these phillistines determined to make AMS2 into the next NFS. ..i hate that..p

but this isn't just true of AMS2 but virtually any race driving sim.

[d[-_-]b]

Your only real competition is yourself, so just work on improving that, no matter what control setup you have. It's all relative, and they're nowhere near real life anyway.

[LosPollos]

Originally posted by d-_-b:

If you're using Steam controller setups for any racing sim you're doing it wrong.
It's not needed, and adds more complex interactions and latency to the control signal path.

Just disable it and learn to use the sim controller settings properly.

People have been advising so many different combinations of controller setups but ultimately you will have the best response going direct and going linear, while learning how to tweak the car setups as needed.

Once you understand it it's fairly easy to apply to different sims once you figure out the settings for linear control.

its off and i cant agree its not good, i will try your settings but alone the xbox peripherals was much worse then setting it to wheel legacy and adjust steering

but i didnt know 50% throttle sens is linear as well for me on 0 = more control of throttle trigger but i wil try

[d[-_-]b]

The simple facts with steam controller, or any plugin to mess with the control signal, is you are adding another layer of processing to the control signal chain. It's not a good thing in games that require minimum latency and minimum processing of the control signals.

Linear is sensitive, and it will require some training and persistence to get comfortable with it if you find it too "twitchy" to begin with.

If so, start at 40 or so and work your way up to 50 as you get more comfortable with micro control and you get more relaxed. It's counter-intuitive to a degree, but the more sensitive it is the more relaxed you need to be - which is ultimately how you want to be driving/flying anyway - in the zone.

I didn't invent this linear method btw, it's used by other simracers as well to great effect:
https://forum.reizastudios.com/threads/automobilista-2-v1-2-2-0-released.19526/page-31#post-148546

Revolutionised my ACC and WRC control experience on gamepad, as well as AMS2.

[LosPollos]

Originally posted by d-_-b:

The simple facts with steam controller, or any plugin to mess with the control signal, is you are adding another layer of processing to the control signal chain. It's not a good thing in games that require minimum latency and minimum processing of the control signals.

Linear is sensitive, and it will require some training and persistence to get comfortable with it if you find it too "twitchy" to begin with.

If so, start at 40 or so and work your way up to 50 as you get more comfortable with micro control and you get more relaxed. It's counter-intuitive to a degree, but the more sensitive it is the more relaxed you need to be.

i would like to see who has the faster settings, steam controller is off to, in GBBikes the controller wont even work if u leave it on xD what controller u youse? maybe a friend find my settings unplayable when i started ams2 cuz he had steam controller on maybe or controllers act different

[LosPollos]

Originally posted by d-_-b:

The simple facts with steam controller, or any plugin to mess with the control signal, is you are adding another layer of processing to the control signal chain. It's not a good thing in games that require minimum latency and minimum processing of the control signals.

Linear is sensitive, and it will require some training and persistence to get comfortable with it if you find it too "twitchy" to begin with.

If so, start at 40 or so and work your way up to 50 as you get more comfortable with micro control and you get more relaxed. It's counter-intuitive to a degree, but the more sensitive it is the more relaxed you need to be.

I didn't invent this linear method btw, it's used by other simracers as well to great effect:
https://forum.reizastudios.com/threads/automobilista-2-v1-2-2-0-released.19526/page-31#post-148546

Revolutionised my ACC and WRC control experience on gamepad, as well as AMS2.

sounds great i only played AMS2 with controller if it comes to simulation in ac i also drifted years ago and in pjc 1 and 2 i never had a good settings

[d[-_-]b]

I just use a wired Xbox controller, nothing fancy.

Linear is a recent thing for me, and it's redefined my controller experience after many many hours fracking around trying to find the right settings in many sims in many different ways. In the end, it was as simple as keeping it linear.

Well worth the effort to get comfortable with it. ymmv!

[LosPollos]

Originally posted by d-_-b:

I just use a wired Xbox controller, nothing fancy.

same i think its a xbox one controller