Love letter to ASM 2

[King Whiffer]

To preface, I've been playing this game with a cheap ass $15 Logi wingman gp (new in box) up until today. Today, I upgraded to a Logi G29 w/shifter. HOLY HELL the FF in this game is superior to nearly all of my racing games; Project Cars 1&2, Assetto Corsa, Dirt Rally 2.0, and BeamNG.Drive. I of course have spent time today breaking the wheel in in all of my games and ASM 2 wins out of them all. I'm going to try VR later. I've only played stock settings for cars so far; no tweaking. I never tweaked any settings before because of said ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wheel (but a wheel none-the-less). By the way if anyone is interested in getting the G29 or the G920, they're both on sale on Amazon for a good chunk off. Anywho, LOVE the game with my new wheel so far!

[d[-_-]b]

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

[G.Heath]

i have not played any of my sims since I bought ams2 a couple weeks ago. Loving it!

[Wee Woo]

Check out some custom ffb. Some great upgrades from default especially for g29/g920 users. https://forum.reizastudios.com/threads/automobilista-2-custom-force-feedback-overview-recommendations.11135/

[MISTER WU]

Originally posted by mambo9:

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

No offence mate, but what sort of FFB would you expect from a gamepad? I used to use a PS4 controller back in the day of Dirt3 but i eventually got a wheel and it was life changing.

I know the gamepad's wobble a bit but thats all you will get, play a car racing game, get a wheel i reckon hey. Its so much better mate seriously.

[catboy1982]

Originally posted by mambo9:

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

sounds fun crashing cars with no multiplayer

[King Whiffer]

Originally posted by mambo9:

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

It works great in VR for me. I WISH BeamNG.Drive had VR. Maybe I'll see what happens later while I have my headset on.

[d[-_-]b]

Originally posted by MISTER WU:

Originally posted by mambo9:

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

No offence mate, but what sort of FFB would you expect from a gamepad? I used to use a PS4 controller back in the day of Dirt3 but i eventually got a wheel and it was life changing.

I know the gamepad's wobble a bit but thats all you will get, play a car racing game, get a wheel i reckon hey. Its so much better mate seriously.

Lets not start the wheel argument again thanks. We know all about wheels.
Those of us that use gamepads use them for lots of different reasons, not just to annoy wheel users into once again saying "you need to play a car sim with a wheel because it's a car".

The game supports gamepads, and even mouse/keyboard.

If you knew anything about gamepad support and haptic feedback (which you don't appear to) you would know there is actually quite a lot that can be done to give a sense of what is happening between the car and the road. This just helps to increase the immersion when using a gamepad.

Games that do this well: rF2, AMS1, ACC, Diret Rally 1/2, Dirt 4, BeamNG.
Another one that utilizes cutting edge gamepad haptic feedback is WRC9 with the new PS Dual sense haptic triggers. https://www.google.com/search?q=wrc+9+ps+haptic+triggers

And no, they don't just "wobble a bit". Sure, it's not a wheel, but wheels also vary a lot in quality as well. Just because someone has a wheel doesn't instantly make them a better driver, there's a lot more to it than that.

[d[-_-]b]

Originally posted by King Whiffer VII:

Originally posted by mambo9:

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

It works great in VR for me. I WISH BeamNG.Drive had VR. Maybe I'll see what happens later while I have my headset on.

AMS2 VR is generally great, one of the best implementations, but that's largely due to PC2/ME stock implementation. It suffers from the same weakness PC2 did, which is the crap AA in VR.

BEamNG would be great in VR, but sadly not available.

[Zakalwe]

Originally posted by mambo9:

I just uninstalled AMS2, ACC and the rest and now just run BeamNG.

I got bored waiting for Reiza to implement proper gamepad feedback and control, BeamNG is so much better.

AMS2 has VR, but the horrible glitchy fences are a huge -ve, at least it has that in common with BeamNG though (the terrible AA, not VR).

What's your issue with pad control?

[flyawayGR]

Originally posted by King Whiffer VII:

To preface, I've been playing this game with a cheap ass $15 Logi wingman gp (new in box) up until today. Today, I upgraded to a Logi G29 w/shifter. HOLY HELL the FF in this game is superior to nearly all of my racing games; Project Cars 1&2, Assetto Corsa, Dirt Rally 2.0, and BeamNG.Drive. I of course have spent time today breaking the wheel in in all of my games and ASM 2 wins out of them all. I'm going to try VR later. I've only played stock settings for cars so far; no tweaking. I never tweaked any settings before because of said ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wheel (but a wheel none-the-less). By the way if anyone is interested in getting the G29 or the G920, they're both on sale on Amazon for a good chunk off. Anywho, LOVE the game with my new wheel so far!

You have seen nothing, upgraded from G29 to a Thrustmaster TS-PC Racer with the Ferrari 488 rim and the T-LCM pedals a few months back...Oh my...Game changing experience, the G29 feels like a gamepad in comprasion.

[grandafam1]

Originally posted by mambo9:

Originally posted by MISTER WU:

No offence mate, but what sort of FFB would you expect from a gamepad? I used to use a PS4 controller back in the day of Dirt3 but i eventually got a wheel and it was life changing.

I know the gamepad's wobble a bit but thats all you will get, play a car racing game, get a wheel i reckon hey. Its so much better mate seriously.

Lets not start the wheel argument again thanks. We know all about wheels.
Those of us that use gamepads use them for lots of different reasons, not just to annoy wheel users into once again saying "you need to play a car sim with a wheel because it's a car".

The game supports gamepads, and even mouse/keyboard.

If you knew anything about gamepad support and haptic feedback (which you don't appear to) you would know there is actually quite a lot that can be done to give a sense of what is happening between the car and the road. This just helps to increase the immersion when using a gamepad.

Games that do this well: rF2, AMS1, ACC, Diret Rally 1/2, Dirt 4, BeamNG.
Another one that utilizes cutting edge gamepad haptic feedback is WRC9 with the new PS Dual sense haptic triggers. https://www.google.com/search?q=wrc+9+ps+haptic+triggers

And no, they don't just "wobble a bit". Sure, it's not a wheel, but wheels also vary a lot in quality as well. Just because someone has a wheel doesn't instantly make them a better driver, there's a lot more to it than that.

Uses a gamepad then complains about immersion. You might as well be trying to drive with a tennis racket.

Young people who do not drive IRL love to use controllers. It's what they are most familiar with. Once licensed though a wheel is the most natural interface for driving. Anything less is a handicap for a real world driver.

[Johnny Speed]

Just so you guys know. Some of the fastest drivers on the leader boards use a controller. NOT a wheel. That goes way back to the Forza 3 leader boards on xbox 360 and still is true today. So, if you are fast with a wheel, great. If you are fast with a controller, great. It makes no difference, fast is fast. It only means you understand the physics of the game and you figured it out. Enjoy the game.

[Johnny Speed]

Originally posted by grandafam1:

Originally posted by mambo9:

Lets not start the wheel argument again thanks. We know all about wheels.
Those of us that use gamepads use them for lots of different reasons, not just to annoy wheel users into once again saying "you need to play a car sim with a wheel because it's a car".

The game supports gamepads, and even mouse/keyboard.

If you knew anything about gamepad support and haptic feedback (which you don't appear to) you would know there is actually quite a lot that can be done to give a sense of what is happening between the car and the road. This just helps to increase the immersion when using a gamepad.

Games that do this well: rF2, AMS1, ACC, Diret Rally 1/2, Dirt 4, BeamNG.
Another one that utilizes cutting edge gamepad haptic feedback is WRC9 with the new PS Dual sense haptic triggers. https://www.google.com/search?q=wrc+9+ps+haptic+triggers

And no, they don't just "wobble a bit". Sure, it's not a wheel, but wheels also vary a lot in quality as well. Just because someone has a wheel doesn't instantly make them a better driver, there's a lot more to it than that.

Uses a gamepad then complains about immersion. You might as well be trying to drive with a tennis racket.

Young people who do not drive IRL love to use controllers. It's what they are most familiar with. Once licensed though a wheel is the most natural interface for driving. Anything less is a handicap for a real world driver.

and by the way grandafam1...you dont own the game. No reason for you to comment unless you are trolling..

[Nats]

Originally posted by Justdave:

Originally posted by grandafam1:

Uses a gamepad then complains about immersion. You might as well be trying to drive with a tennis racket.

Young people who do not drive IRL love to use controllers. It's what they are most familiar with. Once licensed though a wheel is the most natural interface for driving. Anything less is a handicap for a real world driver.

and by the way grandafam1...you dont own the game. No reason for you to comment unless you are trolling..

Maybe he races in real cars .... or plays another racing game. He still has a right to comment whether he owns the game or not. Although arguments about controllers vs wheels are boring as hell ....

[d[-_-]b]

Originally posted by Justdave:

Just so you guys know. Some of the fastest drivers on the leader boards use a controller. NOT a wheel. That goes way back to the Forza 3 leader boards on xbox 360 and still is true today. So, if you are fast with a wheel, great. If you are fast with a controller, great. It makes no difference, fast is fast. It only means you understand the physics of the game and you figured it out. Enjoy the game.

This exactly. An intelligent reply, thanks.

90% of the benefits of simulation are mental, the control aspect is only a small part of it.

Just to repeat, as it seems some people have thick ears:
Lets not start the wheel argument again thanks. We know all about wheels.
Those of us that use gamepads use them for lots of different reasons, not just to annoy wheel users into once again saying "you need to play a car sim with a wheel because it's a car".