All cars spin and skid out all too easily

[theSelf]

I find all cars frustrating to drive in AMS2.. With normal driving in dry conditions they all, no matter which vehicle - even the trucks, seem to skid and spin out all too easily and all too often .. does anyone have any tips to avoid this as for now it's making it really unenjoyable to play and instead have gone back to project cars 2 which doesn't skid and spin out a fraction of the amount even with much faster cars...? Thank you

[bazzalb]

Originally posted by theSelf:

I have the Thrustmaster T300 Alacantara Ferrari edition wheel and pedals.. Been trying to drive the caterham at Oulton Park.. But it still is not fun to drive.. I've tried changing the brake and accelerator pedal sensitivity up and down, recalibrated the pedals.. Whatever I do just in accelerating in a straight line.. It wiggles left and right to the point on accelerating and it often spins out still.. So frustrating to the point I can't play till there is a solution to this.. Tried changing the wheel sensitivity too but after setting it keeps changing back to the default wheel sensitivity and won't stay at the wheel sensitivity I changed it to either..

I really can't explain it. In all honesty I really think the Caterham is easy to drive and you can even abuse it around the circuit as well by kicking the rear out and powering through the bends or drifting it if thats your thing. I find it quite forgiving in that regard but a nice smooth technique is equally just as easy. I only use default setups too. The only car I had some issue with the rear end getting too lose was the StockCar Brasil, but a touch of tuning of the diff fixed that.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[theSelf]

Originally posted by Super Erpel:

T500 here with an 33cm Momo Mod 78. No problems with the caterhams at all. They are really fun and easy to drive, especially the 620R. It's not twitchy for me and my racing buddys I drive with. We had so much fun powerdrifting through the corners. Perfectly controllable and intuitive to drive and recover.

Just set your wheel to maximum lock in the window settings panel and calibrate it properly in-game. The game then uses the right steering lock and ratio automatically for each car.

For me the caterham 620R and many cars pulls to the left every time I accelerate and skids out.. what do you mean to set my wheel to maximum lock in which window settings panel? Thank you

[theSelf]

Originally posted by bazzalb:

Originally posted by theSelf:

I have the Thrustmaster T300 Alacantara Ferrari edition wheel and pedals.. Been trying to drive the caterham at Oulton Park.. But it still is not fun to drive.. I've tried changing the brake and accelerator pedal sensitivity up and down, recalibrated the pedals.. Whatever I do just in accelerating in a straight line.. It wiggles left and right to the point on accelerating and it often spins out still.. So frustrating to the point I can't play till there is a solution to this.. Tried changing the wheel sensitivity too but after setting it keeps changing back to the default wheel sensitivity and won't stay at the wheel sensitivity I changed it to either..

I really can't explain it. In all honesty I really think the Caterham is easy to drive and you can even abuse it around the circuit as well by kicking the rear out and powering through the bends or drifting it if thats your thing. I find it quite forgiving in that regard but a nice smooth technique is equally just as easy. I only use default setups too. The only car I had some issue with the rear end getting too lose was the StockCar Brasil, but a touch of tuning of the diff fixed that.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So when you floor the throttle with the caterham it doesn't pull to the left and skid/spin out at all like it (and most other cars) do for me?

[Gerd]

Originally posted by bazzalb:

I really can't explain it. In all honesty I really think the Caterham is easy to drive and you can even abuse it around the circuit as well by kicking the rear out and powering through the bends or drifting it if thats your thing. I find it quite forgiving in that regard but a nice smooth technique is equally just as easy. I only use default setups too. The only car I had some issue with the rear end getting too lose was the StockCar Brasil, but a touch of tuning of the diff fixed that.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel exactly the same. If you know what you're doing, it's really easy and fun to throw them around, even on the limit.

[Gerd]

Originally posted by theSelf:

... what do you mean to set my wheel to maximum lock in which window settings panel? Thank you

The wheel settings in the Windows control panel. Should be there if you've installed the Thrustmaster drivers.

[Roger Longkoch]

Originally posted by theSelf:

Originally posted by bazzalb:

I feel like I am driving a completely different game to people here. What car is like on ice blocks? I have yet to come across any car that feels like its on ice blocks.

the caterham, trucks, vw beetle- all spin

Which Caterham? The 620r is a monster in real life so expect it to feel over powered in the game. The 360r (Superlight) has a much more manageable power to weight ratio. The real 360 is beautifully balanced and the AMS2 version has me smiling from ear to ear.

[Ochso]

I Like the Caterham and agree with others its fairly easy to drive and can take a lot of abuse.
Its just knowing when to use the "loud pedal" and how sensitive you have it set to minor adjustments in revs. (And of course how heavy your foot is).

Yes Ive only just got the game and am still getting the FFB to how I like it. but so far I am impressed with the tyre & suspension physics for feeling the road and grip levels.

Only really driven the Monza and Snetterton tracks and stock set ups. ( Im currently working away from my main rig so only using a TS base unit with various wheels , TH8 shifter and fanatec v3 both VR and pancake)

So possibly its getting that combination of sensitivity in game and on hardware that you are comfortable with .
Its time consuming but I believe time well spent.

[theSelf]

Originally posted by Super Erpel:

Originally posted by theSelf:

... what do you mean to set my wheel to maximum lock in which window settings panel? Thank you

The wheel settings in the Windows control panel. Should be there if you've installed the Thrustmaster drivers.

So I went into my thrustmaster T300R game controller windows settings' Properties.. my wheel goes up to 1080° but it was set at 900° default.. Set it to 1080° then went back to AMS2 and recalibrated the wheel.. The caterham drives better but not other cars (still skid to the side on accelerating in a straight line..I notice either way my physical wheel in real life can turn the full range of motion but the virtual steering wheel in the game stops turning well before the maximum range of my thrustmaster wheel.. Should the degrees be kept at 1080°, the windows default of 900° or much less to match the maximum range of the virtual steering wheel? Thank you

[bazzalb]

Originally posted by theSelf:

So when you floor the throttle with the caterham it doesn't pull to the left and skid/spin out at all like it (and most other cars) do for me?

If I abuse it, it reacts. I am not harsh on the throttle. I don't treat it like a button. At the same time, if the rear kicks out, I can correct it quite easily. I don't change gear and slam the throttle down to full if thats what you mean. Who drives a car like that? I use the entire throttle range with the Caterham 620R and I am pretty sure I am not slow. I guess you could say I "feather" the throttle, but this is just normal driving as far as I am concerned, ie You react with the throttle according to how the car is reacting. You can even steer the 620R with the right foot. Its a joy to drive.

I am 55 years old, so maybe some of this has just become second nature.

Edit: I really think you are having Wheel range calibration issues. This can have a drastic effect on the "twitchiness" of a car and your ability to make quick corrections without over-reacting. Like I say, it took me a couple of goes before the game seemed to get it right.

[Gerd]

Hmmm. If all cars spin out for you, then maybe you're just not sensible enough with throttle control. A high powered sportscar without driving aids will fishtail you into the woods in real-life too, if you don't know what you're doing.

You have to pay attention to the slightest movement of the car and react and counter-steer immediately and modulate the accelerator sensitively.


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However, all this only applies if you have properly calibrated your steering wheel. Both under Windows and in the game.

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I've calibrated my T500 to 1080 degrees in Windows control panel and the same in the game. The wheel in-game is on sync and reacts 1:1 to my real inputs.

[theSelf]

Originally posted by bazzalb:

Originally posted by theSelf:

So when you floor the throttle with the caterham it doesn't pull to the left and skid/spin out at all like it (and most other cars) do for me?

If I abuse it, it reacts. I am not harsh on the throttle. I don't treat it like a button. At the same time, if the rear kicks out, I can correct it quite easily. I don't change gear and slam the throttle down to full if thats what you mean. Who drives a car like that? I use the entire throttle range with the Caterham 620R and I am pretty sure I am not slow. I guess you could say I "feather" the throttle, but this is just normal driving as far as I am concerned, ie You react with the throttle according to how the car is reacting. You can even steer the 620R with the right foot. Its a joy to drive.

I am 55 years old, say maybe some of this is just second nature.

Thanks.. How do you correct it if the front skids to the left or right (is that the rear kicking out in the opposite direction?) when accelerating in a straight line then? I've tried just not being as hard on the throttle/not flooring it as much (what I think you mean by feathering it) and it skids out less as a result but can't keep up with AI pack at the slower speed using less throttle.. It's like the ai can go faster without skidding out like they're on rails almost..

[Gerd]

Coutersteering and throttle control is the key. You have to react to keep the car stable.

[theSelf]

Originally posted by bazzalb:

Originally posted by theSelf:

So when you floor the throttle with the caterham it doesn't pull to the left and skid/spin out at all like it (and most other cars) do for me?

If I abuse it, it reacts. I am not harsh on the throttle. I don't treat it like a button. At the same time, if the rear kicks out, I can correct it quite easily. I don't change gear and slam the throttle down to full if thats what you mean. Who drives a car like that? I use the entire throttle range with the Caterham 620R and I am pretty sure I am not slow. I guess you could say I "feather" the throttle, but this is just normal driving as far as I am concerned, ie You react with the throttle according to how the car is reacting. You can even steer the 620R with the right foot. Its a joy to drive.

I am 55 years old, so maybe some of this has just become second nature.

Edit: I really think you are having Wheel range calibration issues. This can have a drastic effect on the "twitchiness" of a car and your ability to make quick corrections without over-reacting. Like I say, it took me a couple of goes before the game seemed to get it right.

I went into my thrustmaster T300R game controller windows settings' Properties.. my wheel goes up to 1080° but it was set at 900° default.. Set it to 1080° then went back to AMS2 and recalibrated the wheel.. The caterham drives better but not many other cars still (which still skid to the side on accelerating in a straight line..I notice either way my physical wheel in real life can turn the full range of motion but the virtual steering wheel in the game stops turning well before the maximum range of my thrustmaster wheel.. Should the degrees be kept at 1080° in the windows game controller settings or the windows default of 900° or much less to match the maximum range of the virtual steering wheel? Thank you

[theSelf]

Originally posted by Super Erpel:

Hmmm. If all cars spin out for you, then maybe you're just not sensible enough with throttle control. A high powered sportscar without driving aids will fishtail you into the woods in real-life too, if you don't know what you're doing.

You have to pay attention to the slightest movement of the car and react and counter-steer immediately and modulate the accelerator sensitively.


edit

However, all this only applies if you have properly calibrated your steering wheel. Both under Windows and in the game.

edit 2

I've calibrated my T500 to 1080 degrees in Windows control panel and the same in the game. The wheel in-game is on sync and reacts 1:1 to my real inputs.

I went into my thrustmaster T300R game controller windows settings' Properties.. my wheel goes up to 1080° but it was set at 900° default.. Set it to 1080° then went back to AMS2 and recalibrated the wheel.. The caterham drives better but not other cars (some of which still skid to the side on accelerating in a straight line)..I notice either way my physical wheel in real life can turn the full range of motion but the virtual steering wheel in the game stops turning well before the maximum range of my thrustmaster wheel.. Should the degrees be kept at 1080°, the windows default of 900° or much less to match the maximum range of the virtual steering wheel? It seems the cars are currently still understeering.. Would making the windows T300R settings less than 900° make it understeer less or otherwise any other options for making it understeer less? Thank you

[Gerd]

The game sets the steering lock according to the car you drive. Calibrate it for 1080 degrees and the game will handle the correct steering lock for you.

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If the cars understeer, maybe you're to fast on corner entry or you're braking to hard