Breaking on this sim is just wrong

[BRAVO]

Honestly i feel like there's something wrong with the braking system on this sim.

By playing every other sim on the market, you can really push the breaking to the limits, but on AMS, it's basically a gamble. The tires lock too often, and the car just spins out like crazy.

This behavior feels very unrealistic, since you should be able to "feel" better the locking, instead of isnta spinning and losing all your progress.

The sim is pretty good on all other aspects, but i feel like the tires under breaking should be reviewed on the next few updates!

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

I reduced the Sensitivity on the Braking Pedal so it doesn't behave as touchy, which works fine for me now. I'm not really a Sim Buff, but maybe looking at the brake/ throttle saturation meter, one can figure if it's too sensitive and adjust the Settings accordingly, either with the control setings or brake pressure or such.
Funnily enough, I picked up ACC and got the oppossite problem, that it feels like I have to smash the brake way to hard to get proper deceleration :D

[BRAVO]

Yeah, i've found that recalibrating the pedals and setting the sensitivity to 10% and reducing the pressure on the car setup to about 75% makes it similar to what i'd expect.

But anyways, when the wheel locks, it's behavior is still a bit weird.

At least it's possible to mitigate a bit on the setups.

[Roger Longkoch]

This is true. I just can't get any consistency under braking.

[turtleCZ]

That's interesting, I've never noticed anything weird.

[munky]

it seems i have to turn the brake bias toward the rear a lot for all the cars i try basically to prevent the spin out or lock ups. I expect the default set ups to have a good brake bias as some were even recently updated, but why do they all have it so that the car locks the rear so easily?

[turtleCZ]

Originally posted by Adr8:

it seems i have to turn the brake bias toward the rear a lot for all the cars i try basically to prevent the spin out or lock ups. I expect the default set ups to have a good brake bias as some were even recently updated, but why do they all have it so that the car locks the rear so easily?

Is it really rear or your car reacts like after handbrake? Do you use ABS? What other games are completely fine against AMS2?

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

Funnily enough, I picked up ACC and got the oppossite problem, that it feels like I have to smash the brake way to hard to get proper deceleration :D

Really? I am locking all cars at about 30 % of pedal. It's overly sensitive.

[azaris]

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

I reduced the Sensitivity on the Braking Pedal so it doesn't behave as touchy, which works fine for me now. I'm not really a Sim Buff, but maybe looking at the brake/ throttle saturation meter, one can figure if it's too sensitive and adjust the Settings accordingly, either with the control setings or brake pressure or such.

I agree something broke after v1.3. It didn't use to be this bad since they fixed the issue in early access. Now ABS seems almost dysfunctional, you need to threshold brake constantly with GT3s to avoid lockups at high speeds (not a thing) and cars like the 190 EVO seem hopeless to even brake in a straight line. I am now reduced to pumping the brakes like I'm driving a 1960's Trabant. The FFB and audio cues for locking are almost nonexistent, too.

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

Funnily enough, I picked up ACC and got the oppossite problem, that it feels like I have to smash the brake way to hard to get proper deceleration :D

That's because the default setups all come with terrible endurance brake pads. You have to go in the setup and always change brake pads to 1 to have any kind of braking performance.

[turtleCZ]

Originally posted by azaris:

That's because the default setups all come with terrible endurance brake pads. You have to go in the setup and always change brake pads to 1 to have any kind of braking performance.

I even tried to lower the brake pressure and still too sensitive. So how can I lower it? More pads?

[lewiswood20585]

Originally posted by BRAVO:

Honestly i feel like there's something wrong with the braking system on this sim.

By playing every other sim on the market, you can really push the breaking to the limits, but on AMS, it's basically a gamble. The tires lock too often, and the car just spins out like crazy.

This behavior feels very unrealistic, since you should be able to "feel" better the locking, instead of isnta spinning and losing all your progress.

The sim is pretty good on all other aspects, but i feel like the tires under breaking should be reviewed on the next few updates!

Solution lies in the cars damper and suspension settings, it is a car setup problem.

[Thomas J. Larsen]

I’ve never experienced any braking issue I couldn’t solve with brake pressure and brake bias. In any sim almost all cars brake too much on the front tires to avoid the tail to slip during braking. There is much braking power to gain by moving the break balance toward the rear wheels. But don’t push it too far – so the rear end spins during breaking.

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

Originally posted by azaris:

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

I reduced the Sensitivity on the Braking Pedal so it doesn't behave as touchy, which works fine for me now. I'm not really a Sim Buff, but maybe looking at the brake/ throttle saturation meter, one can figure if it's too sensitive and adjust the Settings accordingly, either with the control setings or brake pressure or such.

I agree something broke after v1.3. It didn't use to be this bad since they fixed the issue in early access. Now ABS seems almost dysfunctional, you need to threshold brake constantly with GT3s to avoid lockups at high speeds (not a thing) and cars like the 190 EVO seem hopeless to even brake in a straight line. I am now reduced to pumping the brakes like I'm driving a 1960's Trabant. The FFB and audio cues for locking are almost nonexistent, too.

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

Funnily enough, I picked up ACC and got the oppossite problem, that it feels like I have to smash the brake way to hard to get proper deceleration :D

That's because the default setups all come with terrible endurance brake pads. You have to go in the setup and always change brake pads to 1 to have any kind of braking performance.

Oh I didn't know that. TY :)

[Vlad Tepes]

Thanks for bringing this up and thanks for all of the responses. I also felt like I was locking the brakes too soon with default setups, and not really changing my driving style. I will look into these other settings now.

[Garfie1d]

It's just getting the settings right. My brakes only lock up if I press the pedal to the metal. Don't blame the game if you can't get it right.

[Employce Mustwashands]

brakes work perfect/consistent for me thb, far better than AC.
edit: mostly using default setups

[Pastro]

A distribution of the brake bias more forward than rear. And then test the pressure of the brakes until they do not lock.