Automobilista 2

Automobilista 2

htvboxaust Apr 8, 2020 @ 6:21pm
What Rubbbish
After 30 mins I got bored. This game is like going back 10 years . Absolutely no difference to PC2. Even PC2 has better graphics. My 10 yr old boy will love this arcade style driving game. Definitely not a sim for an adult. Absolute junk!!!
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NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Mahjik:
Originally posted by NTU:
AMS 2 says sequential. If it's not a sequential car then it shouldn't let me change gears a thousand times with the paddle shifters during an endurance race and only grind once.

All the cars say sequential right now. They haven't updated the menus on all of the cars yet.
No, the other lancer says H-pattern.... Just stop dude. Even so, if what you're saying is true, the gears should have slipped more than once with automatic clutch disabled.
Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by NTU:
Originally posted by Mahjik:

All the cars say sequential right now. They haven't updated the menus on all of the cars yet.
No, the other lancer says H-pattern.... Just stop dude. Even so, if what you're saying is true, the gears should have slipped more than once with automatic clutch disabled.

Even if you look at some of the older formula cars, the data isn't accurate yet. For a sequential car, there is no way to drop into neutral once the car is in running gears. If AMS2 allows that, that is completely wrong. You don't seem to understand development and how things work (i.e. not everything is where it should be right now).
NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Mahjik:
If AMS2 allows that, that is completely wrong.
Yeah, got stuck in neutral ONE TIME, heard all the grinding noises, 80 laps at VIRginia in the Lancer RS, no clutch. Thank you for finally agreeing with me.
Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by NTU:
Originally posted by Mahjik:
If AMS2 allows that, that is completely wrong.
Yeah, got stuck in neutral ONE TIME, heard all the grinding noises, 80 laps at VIRginia in the Lancer RS, no clutch. Thank you for finally agreeing with me.

What I'm suggesting is that one of two things is happening:

1. The car is configured for manual but the screen says sequential (this is what's happening with several cars). The screen needs to be updated for manual.
2. The car transmission hasn't been setup yet for the car since it's still EA.

I'm betting on the screen not being updated as several cars show sequential on the screen but they are not sequential cars (and there are other statistical data on the car screens that haven't been updated).

The issue is that you don't seem to understand that sometimes devs will just throw stuff on the screens as placeholder data during development. i.e. the text on the screen isn't that important until they get closer to released time so there is some incorrect screen information in their currently.

Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by NTU:
In 80 laps.... WHAT YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND, is that it shouldn't have happened only once. Condescending moron.

Even street cars can be shifted without a clutch if you can hit the right rpms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLw0hAtOik4

You seem to believe a clutch is required for a manual car and that is not technically correct. So before you go around calling people "morons", you might make sure you have a basic understanding of mechanics.
Last edited by Mahjik; Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:29pm
NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by Mahjik:

Even street cars can be shifted without a clutch if you can hit the right rpms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLw0hAtOik4

You seem to believe a clutch is required for a manual car and that is not technically correct. So before you go around calling people "morons", you might make sure you have a basic understanding of mechanics.
I wasn't rev matching or letting off the throttle, I was flooring the gas down at max revs like a rally car, mashing it through the gears. Stop making assumptions or please just stop talking.

If you change gears fast enough, you can grind gears in any car. Super V8 cars don't require a clutch to change gears. If you change gears fast enough you can get those to grind too.
Last edited by NTU; Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:34pm
Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by NTU:
I wasn't rev matching or letting off the throttle, I was flooring the gas down at max revs like a rally car, mashing it through the gears. Stop making assumptions or please just stop talking.

It's not really about rev matching per say. It's the rpm is of the engine to match the drivetrain, but accounting for the rpm of the next gear (whether up or down). Depending on the car, drivers don't need to do much to "rev match" as the inertia of the engine and the drivetrain. It a lot more involved when calcuating the inertia loss based on the components (i.e. a heavier flywheel holds more inertia than a light one). An it's easier to accomplish on a race track than the street. Unless Reiza has made changes in this space, the Madness engine never simulated this well so you could get away with driving a manual like a sequential most of the time.
NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:44pm 
I said max revs. I was not matching anything at all. You're trolling and highly irritating. Trolling is against the rules too, you've been purposely missing the point since you joined this thread.
Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:45pm 
FWIW, I just ran the Lance RS. You can shift it faster if you use the clutch than without using the clutch (didn't test auto-clutch).

The other thing, we glossed over in this discussion. Technically, sequential doesn't necessarily equal clutchless. Sequential just means you cannot skip gears. For example, you can install a sequential shifter into a street car that is a manual, i.e. one of those rally style hand shifters. But that won't eliminate the need for a clutch.

With that, it's possible the Lance RS is "sequential" but not "clutchless".
NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:46pm 
So you piss me off now you want to have a serious discussion?
NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Mahjik:
Originally posted by NTU:
So you piss me off now you want to have a serious discussion?


Yep!
Prior to calling you an idiot, I didn't do anything wrong. You're a toxic human being.
Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by NTU:
Originally posted by Mahjik:


Yep!
Prior to calling you an idiot, I didn't do anything wrong. You're a toxic human being.


Ok, you are going to have to point out the post where I used the term "idiot". I don't recall using that in this thread.
NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Mahjik:
Originally posted by NTU:
Prior to calling you an idiot, I didn't do anything wrong. You're a toxic human being.


Ok, you are going to have to point out the post where I used the term "idiot". I don't recall using that in this thread.
You didn't. This is you misreading what I said.. Again. And I'm going to correct myself now; I didn't call you an idiot, I called you a condescending moron.

Now you're going to twist my words around again or assume something else.
Last edited by NTU; Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:53pm
Mahjik Apr 18, 2020 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by NTU:
I called you a condescending moron.

Yep, which is against the Steam rules:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

If you cannot have a discussion without resorting to name calling, why continue? Just move on and ignore the discussion.

NTU Apr 18, 2020 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Mahjik:
Originally posted by NTU:
I called you a condescending moron.

Yep, which is against the Steam rules:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

If you cannot have a discussion without resorting to name calling, why continue? Just move on and ignore the discussion.
You're trolling, that's against the rules too. You have no idea how annoying you are!

I say one thing and you completely turn it around!!!!!! Good lord dude, I almost hope I get permanently banned so I don't have to read this backwards crap flying out your mouth.
Last edited by NTU; Apr 18, 2020 @ 1:02pm
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