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I mean what's the point of the game at all if critical, game breaking, things like this happen, are known about, yet never get fixed? You make a line, set trains on it, and then the trains ignore it all together, and go off on their own breaking other set lines, breaking the entire point of the game.
And, don't change signals or track near the route in question, or a train can end up going elsewhere.
I had this problem in my current map with my Iron + Coal route. 1 or 2 trains would go off elsewhere, but only because the station they dropped off the cargo at had a signal in an errant place....
Yup, all it took was 1 bad signal.... (Even though the other 8 trains on the route never went anywhere else, and since all of the trains were the same consist (length, and motive power) i never saw why they would)
haven't had the issue since, and the route is more congested and has more trains on it now than it did...
-Can't upgrade track that can get outdated.
-Can't upgrade signals that become outdated.
-Can't upgrade trains that become obsolete.
-Can't even load a saved game now because of that "some models have been updated" thing, that happens every single time a save is loaded.
Well this last patch has seemingly broken the entire point of playing this game at all. "Build a transport empire, from 1850 into the future" It says... But then attempting to do that very thing, breaks the transport empire after anything gets updated, weather by your doing or just reloading a save.
This is one of the bugs that should have been fixed YEARS AGO!
No, no it doesn't.
And you misunderstand, it's not about "don't upgrade signals at all" more "don't upgrade signals when a train is passing it".
i've noticed when that happens it tends to place the train on any nearby tracks, even if it's not meant to be going that way (such as at a junction, it might go left instead of right)
This is probably a bug, but one you can work around quite easily; Don't change them while a train is passing it.
the middle one, i've addressed, but i don't understand the first or last "issues". Never seen either of them, especially the last one...
I have always named my trains by number, in order. The first one i buy becomes "No. 1" and when that train is replaced, it becomes the last number, which could be 297 or 340 or whatever... im on 1320, so i've bought 1300 trains over my playthrough. Some of which ended up as multiconsist, so 4 loco's heading a train etc..
I haven't had a single issue replacing -any- of them!
Well, there should be an option to say "don't show this again", but the simplest fix would be to start a new game rather than continuing old ones... I don't know..
You mean, before the features they affect even existed?
Pausing the game whenever you make any modifications has been reported to reduce the likelihood of issues.
There's no option I've seen that allows for that.
So basically any time I want to play this, your saying that I should start a new game. And the next day, start another. And if I want to take a break and have some lunch, NEW GAME!
Making it basically impossible to move past 1850 (the point that I normally start from), because I run the game at 1/4 time speed. Yeah, that's the ideal solution over just the devs releasing a patch to fix this...
Umm... Read the first reply.
fairly sure i've never said there wasn't a bug with it and that my very first reply in this entire thread should have given that away pretty clearly
Thank you for NOT reading anything past the first word.
Also, just because im not following your every word as if you are god does not mean i am a "fanboy". That just makes you look like a fool, and someone who isn't worth the time of day.
fair enough, i've not seen the message myself, so it was merely a guess on my part. I know the one on game start has this option, so i assumed any others would.
If your game is doing *that* you have serious problems with your game. Have you done all the troubleshooting you should have done? Verified files, removed your mods etc..?
I've been saving and loading my game without ever seeing that message, so this is a *you* problem. Either that or im lucky... i started my save in 1860, it's now 1971.. i've been playing at 1/4 speed and as you say, would have never got anywhere near that had i had to do what you seem to.
Verify your game and all that. Can't be bothered typing out all the things you should do when you clearly aren't worth it given the "fanboy" comment and general arrogance.
Good day.
Yeah... That's just what I want to do... Play the game vanilla again. I think not.
Nope, i came out of my own game to address your points on a public forum, and because i wasn't 100% agreeing with every point you made, you insinuated im an "fanboy" as an insult and tried to put words in my mouth as if i said there was no bugs at all.
I didn't even say that, and i even gave you some tips on how to work around said bugs but you weren't having any of it.
now your trying to say im strawmanning...
Your not going to "play" vanilla... you do it to TEST your mods, so you can find the one causing your issues; This is troubleshooting 101.
Or in other words: Pot calling the kettle 'black'. As I never insinuated, or said any of those things.
Edit:
Yes, I said you where 'fanboying' by saying 'just start a new game every time'. Because that's not a viable solution. But there was no insinuation or insult meant in that.
And yes, I said that you admit that are bugs at the top. But at the bottom you talked like they couldn't exist because the features that introduced them didn't exist either. Which they do, and they did.
Occasionally trains will get disoriented when you build or change things with the simulation on, hence it is usually a good idea to do that with the game paused.
By using the word "fanboy" what you actually saying is you can't accept anything but agreements and your salty little child having a tantrum. You can thank the rest of the internet for that one...
your original post stated you had the issue when you loaded a game, not whenever you tried to play;
That just says everytime a save is "loaded", but you never mentioned how old those saves were, and with the "some models" message, it was very likely you were loading older saves you'd been playing a while, and not brand new fresh saves;
Thus my advice to start a new game, however annoying it might be to do so, was the best thing to suggest.
My own fresh saves never had that message spawn, so what we can deduce now is it's one of your mods.
Only way to work out which is the time honoured method of adding mods 1 by 1 to a new save and narrowing down which cause it.
The trouble is, the alternative platforms and the way the trains go in random directions has only been a thing -since- that update. Prior to that i never had trains going off in random directions.
It also causes other issues, that Yeol showed me a while back with a circular route. Things that never happened before that update.
So, yes, there were bugs that existed back then, but this isn't one of those.
At that point I might as well just go start playing a 'Rogue Like' game; And FYI I hate, I Hate, I HATE, 'Rogue Like' games. There's just no point to them at all; Might as well just give that money to some twich THOT for the briefest moment of recognition, at least then something was accomplished. Not that I condone doing that either. But the point remains. And did I mention I hate 'Rogue Like' games?
Still, if there is a lack of information that you might feel is necessary; Just ask for that information. Don't go all willy-nilly on the assumptions. I really do hate that. And it never hurts to ask.
Trains go off mission in response to something YOU did, they don't just do it willy nilly.
People have given their time to try to help you but you just want to argue rather than be educated or helped.
No doubt you will reply with another load of insulting twadle, But I won't give two hoots because from reading your posts in this topic I can not muster and respect for you.
I can't be belittled by a person that I have no respect for.