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horsebrackets May 14, 2022 @ 12:13pm
Did Pullman really spell "wagon" with 2 G's?
Waggon?
Is that a typo?
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grapplehoeker May 14, 2022 @ 12:17pm 
Both "wagon" and "waggon" are acceptable English. However, "waggon" was more commonly used up until a century ago and "wagon" has now become the predominant spelling.
Please see:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=on&content=waggon&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cwaggon%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bwaggon%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWaggon%3B%2Cc0
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horsebrackets May 14, 2022 @ 12:23pm 
ahh, thank you for the history lesson!
I love learning new things.

That extra G was driving my inner English teacher bonkers, but i'll have my inner History teacher give her a talking-to.
grapplehoeker May 14, 2022 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by horsebrackets:
ahh, thank you for the history lesson!
I love learning new things.
Heh, you're welcome, me too...
Out of curiosity, I wondered if the poor G has also fallen away from "flagon" and yes, it appears that "flaggon" has also died away.
It makes me wonder if someday in the future, other words such as "baggage" and "luggage" will also drop the G.
Poor old G ;)
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GordonDry May 14, 2022 @ 1:04pm 
Hmm. ♥♥♥♥♥?
GordonDry May 14, 2022 @ 1:04pm 
Well, indeed. Even with one g it's censored by the woke cancel culture blacklist.
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CHMS May 14, 2022 @ 1:07pm 
Some of the spelling "laws" seem to be the capitulation of the politics to the dumbness of the students...
grapplehoeker May 14, 2022 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by GordonDry:
Well, indeed. Even with one g it's censored by the woke cancel culture blacklist.
That's an interesting one, because it appears that the original spelling with two G's has begun a resurgence since the 1980's after having died out at the beginning of the 20th century.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=♥♥♥♥♥♥&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&case_insensitive=on&corpus=26&smoothing=7&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cfaggot%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bfaggot%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BFaggot%3B%2Cc0#t4%3B%2Cfaggot%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bfaggot%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BFaggot%3B%2Cc0
I have always used two G's for that word but only applied it to its original meaning for bent twigs or sticks, and of course to the British meatball in gravy... delicious!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)
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Metacritical May 14, 2022 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by GordonDry:
Well, indeed. Even with one g it's censored by the woke cancel culture blacklist.
we have idiot bingo!
horsebrackets May 14, 2022 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by grapplehoeker:
Originally posted by horsebrackets:
ahh, thank you for the history lesson!
I love learning new things.
Heh, you're welcome, me too...
Out of curiosity, I wondered if the poor G has also fallen away from "flagon" and yes, it appears that "flaggon" has also died away.
It makes me wonder if someday in the future, other words such as "baggage" and "luggage" will also drop the G.
Poor old G ;)

I hope lugage and bagage never hapen.
grapplehoeker May 18, 2022 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by horsebrackets:
I hope lugage and bagage never hapen.
You just had to take a pee, didn't you ;)
Yeol May 18, 2022 @ 10:56pm 
Waggon is one of the Dutch words that made it into the English (and French) vocabulary. And indeed "waggon" is written in Dutch with 2 g's. The double g in English looks horrible, and so it disappeared over time. But so now and then it emerges again, like now in TpF.
GordonDry May 19, 2022 @ 2:06am 
The "other dutch" - so "german" - also uses two g's.
start214 May 19, 2022 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by Yeol:
Waggon is one of the Dutch words that made it into the English (and French) vocabulary. And indeed "waggon" is written in Dutch with 2 g's. The double g in English looks horrible, and so it disappeared over time. But so now and then it emerges again, like now in TpF.

Correction Yeol, 'wagon' in Dutch is written with one 'g' ;)
Yeol May 19, 2022 @ 4:37am 
In the 19th century Dutch, the time when the word "waggon" was adopted in the English vocabulary, it was written with 2 g's. Sorry for the confusion with the today's Dutch spelling of "wagon" (or wagen) with one g. ;)
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