Automatic Replacement

[Rogers773]

Any idea if automatic vehicle replacement will be coming back?

[Huperspace]

only in TPF3 if enough are complaining.

[Sodien]

Automatic replacement should be implemented. If you do not want to use it you do not have to. But for me how wants just a nice game without the aspect of money it is useful.

[Oddible]

I initially thought this but the new system seems to work pretty well - what is it about Automatic Replacement that you need from the old system? The new system allows you to select individual or multiple vehicles on a line and replace them without having them go back to the depot. It doesn't do it after the vehicle has reached end-of-life because that system doesn't work the same anymore. Vehicles have no practical end-of-life currently - they just cause more emissions based on maintenance levels and don't achieve the volume or speed of newer vehicles.

Arguably the maintenance cost should go up for obsolete vehicles since parts won't be available - that is my only complaint - it is a bit unrealistic.

[SoftwareSimian]

Two things (for me, personally)

1) I find it jarring to see the "magic" in-place upgrade when the vehicle en route transmogrifies to the replacement vehicle. I can suspend disbelief that when it did so at the next station in TpF1 we just didn't see the maintenance crew come in and swap it out, but to see it magically change while travelling is odd. But that's a minor complaint overall.

2) I found the system of queuing a replacement train design in the Replacement Vehicle setting for the line, and then being able to replace individual trains (more so than other vehicle types) with the new configuration on demand to work very well for me. I usually start a line with a small locomotive and a couple cars to get things moving, and then as production builds I gradually upgrade the vehicle capacity. I really liked the old system for this.

There really shouldn't be any discussion of "this way is better than that way", however. Just make the old mechanism also available and users can use whichever system works best for them in the given situation.

[larry_roberts]

When the year 2020 appears there will be no more new types of vehicles, so will be faced with the choice of high maintenance levels or having to manually replace vehicles, I think it would make life easier if we had autoreplace back!.

[mariwing]

Either autoreplace should be put back, OR you should be able to turn of "old vehicle notifications". If the description above is correct (old vehicle runs as good as before, just with higher maintenance) I don't need to replace the vehicles and definitely don't need that notification popping up all the time

[macragge]

you don't need to replace a vehicle with a new same vehicle. if you do you will get rid of the messages. thats all. if they get old it will increae the pollution of the vehicle,,thats all.

[Vimpster]

Originally posted by SoftwareSimian:

There really shouldn't be any discussion of "this way is better than that way", however. Just make the old mechanism also available and users can use whichever system works best for them in the given situation.

I suppose it depends on what someone means when they say better. Increasing the maintenance temporarily (it only takes about a year) to bring a vehicle back to top condition is clearly the more economical solution as it is at least 10x cheaper than replacing the vehicle, yet it has the exact same result.

[KnatteAnka]

Also in the menu where you set maintence level you dont se how run down a vechicle is.
But like SoftwareSimian i am missing the possebility to queue an upgrade when i have found the setup that works for a line even if i dont have money for the moment but they will be when i have.

[genemead]

Auto replacement is redundant and unneeded.
It's a mental thing.
You'll get over it.
(People said they didn't like auto-replacement at first, too).

[omnius]

If there's no Automoatic Replacement then TF2 isn't worth buying. The one word I use to describe TF is TEDIOUS and it sounds like TF2 is even more so. The really bad part of the Automatic Replacement in TF was that it wouldn't work on wagons we selected for specific cargoes, only on the worthless Automatic cargo selection. Using AR was an excellent way to upgrade trains to newer better models, not just to replace old trains with the same model just to reduce running costs. The new maintenance feature sounds like a big copout by the developers.

[Soylent_Greene]

Perhaps a modder could figure out a script that would implement an auto-replacement.

Then the purists can keep their game as shipped and anyone else could obtain the mod as desired.

Keep both sides from having their panties in a knot!

[Kobe18883]

Originally posted by omnius:

If there's no Automoatic Replacement then TF2 isn't worth buying. The one word I use to describe TF is TEDIOUS and it sounds like TF2 is even more so. The really bad part of the Automatic Replacement in TF was that it wouldn't work on wagons we selected for specific cargoes, only on the worthless Automatic cargo selection. Using AR was an excellent way to upgrade trains to newer better models, not just to replace old trains with the same model just to reduce running costs. The new maintenance feature sounds like a big copout by the developers.

Why would you need an Automoatic Replacement???
When a new vehicle is coming out then you have to set the Automoatic Replacement anyway. In TF2 you can select any of your trains and replace them with the new one so there is the same mechanic!
I dont get it that so many want that "feature" back!

[Gorby]

Originally posted by Kobe18883:

Originally posted by omnius:

If there's no Automoatic Replacement then TF2 isn't worth buying. The one word I use to describe TF is TEDIOUS and it sounds like TF2 is even more so. The really bad part of the Automatic Replacement in TF was that it wouldn't work on wagons we selected for specific cargoes, only on the worthless Automatic cargo selection. Using AR was an excellent way to upgrade trains to newer better models, not just to replace old trains with the same model just to reduce running costs. The new maintenance feature sounds like a big copout by the developers.

Why would you need an Automoatic Replacement???
When a new vehicle is coming out then you have to set the Automoatic Replacement anyway. In TF2 you can select any of your trains and replace them with the new one so there is the same mechanic!
I dont get it that so many want that "feature" back!

He doesn't know why he needs automatic replacement because he hasn't even played the game... all his complaints are based on what he read in peoples' comments. lol

[joeball123]

I wouldn't mind having automatic vehicle replacement for set-and-forget eventual vehicle upgrades or as a sort of note for what I'd eventually like to run on a line, but it's certainly not something that I feel is at all necessary for how the game works. I'd much rather have some kind of maintenance scheduling, because for how the game works you really don't need to have vehicles constantly on high/very high maintenance.