Improved cockpit camera?

[Vulmada]

I read that there was added an Improved cockpit camera....

I opened a vehicle (train) windowd, clicked the camera button but I still had the old "in front of the vehicle" view.

I went into options / keybinds and saw there are 2 buttons "page up / page down" which changes cockpit camera position - But when clicking page up / page down, nothing changes....

This is the same when I try on boats, cars, busses... I even have tried with "enable camera tool" on (not sure what that does) but it does not change anything...

am I doing anything wrong ? I'm not see any "advancements" to the cockpit / drivers camera.... (shrug)

[chrisasnyder]

Did you try using the Arrow Keys on the your keyboard to move the camera position around?

[Vulmada]

Originally posted by chrisasnyder:

Did you try using the Arrow Keys on the your keyboard to move the camera position around?

Yes, but I could move the camera with wsad before that update..... I thought the new camera was supposed to actually be a "drivers" cam....?

[Vimpster]

Where did you read that it was improved? In a patch note? Or improved from the last game in the series? We have full control of the cockpit camera now, not just it's position but can freely look around as well. That wasn't possible in the previous game.

[CashonWheels]

Most modders won't bother or don't know about camera positioning. In addition to WASD, The mouse & the arrow keys you can use you Z, X, Q, R, E, & F to move the camera postion to you liking.

[Vimpster]

I use WASD and ZX for vertical movement.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2953642967
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2953643275

[RadiKyle]

The only changes I recall being mentioned is it now shows the hotkey tips after entering the cockpit view (PgUp/Dn and H), and the tips fade away after 5(?) seconds. But I think the camera view and operation is still the same as before.

I always use this mod tho so tbh I don't really know what are the vanilla camera views anymore:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2021073822
I just know I switch views with PgUp/Dn, look around with mouse, and there are a *lot* of views on some vehicles (especially if it's a mod vehicle that already has its own views included).

[Vulmada]

Originally posted by Vimpster:

Where did you read that it was improved? In a patch note? Or improved from the last game in the series? We have full control of the cockpit camera now, not just it's position but can freely look around as well. That wasn't possible in the previous game.

I read it on transportsfever2 .com 's wiki, release notes - version 35230 (March 09,2023)

Added controller-optimized user interface: enable it in the interface settings
Added controller support (only in the controller-optimized user interface)
Added reworked and improved vehicle models
Added Italian, Brazilian Portuguese and Korean localization
Added support for Steam Deck
Improved simulation performance
Improved rendering performance
Improved savegame loading performance
Improved memory usage
Improved video memory usage: introduced temporary unloading of unused textures
Improved savegame storage size by using zstd compression
Improved resource loading by providing more game resources in zip archives
Improved rendering: do proper transparency rendering to prevent xray effects
Improved rendering performance: added terrain tesselation
Improved usability: ask for input device if both mouse and controller are connected on first startup
Improved usability: ask for confirmation if user leaves settings menu with unsaved changes
Improved notifications: unified layout and position
Improved notifications: added setting to disable notification about new vehicles
Improved line manager: better highlighting and warnings related to alternative terminal issues
Improved line manager: show arrow at decision signals for alternative terminals
Improved line manager: force common decision points only for paths departing from same terminal
Improved line manager: ask for confirmation if line with configured stops should be deleted
Improved path finding: ignore alternative terminals from where is no path to the next primary terminal
Improved path finding: reduce calculation time for lines with multi-dock harbors
Improved path finding: only warn if a terminal is not reachable from any used terminal of the previous stop
Improved data layers: added layer minimize feature to hide legend
Improved construction: grid layout for bridges, tunnels and railroad crossings
Improved street construction: adjusted size and heights of cloverleaf intersection
- - - > Improved cockpit camera: hide hints after 5 seconds <- - - - - - - -
Improved music player: added playlists which are selectable in audio settings
Improved credits screen: added library information and navigation interaction
Improved map settings balancing: changed medium map size to 11km x 11 km
Improved debug output in certain crash situations
Improved debug output related to unexpected crashes
Map Editor Improved date handling: set start date to current date on save
Modding Improved user interface modding: added textAutoWrap property
Modding Improved user interface modding: added support for @4x icons
Modding Improved user interface modding: moved various hardcoded stylings to stylesheets
Modding Improved scripting: added file filter support for animals
Modding Improved scripting: added command SetBuildingManual to disable industry closure and up/downgrade for an industry entity
Modding Improved scripting: added command SetBuildingClosureTimeStamp to trigger or abort industry closure for an industry entity
Modding Improved scripting: added function api.gui.util.getStepTimes() to get simulation step times
Modding Improved scripting: added function api.gui.util.getCommandTimes() to get command processing times
Modding Improved scripting: added function api.gui.util.getReplicateTimes() to get sync times between gui and simulation state
Modding Improved scripting: added function api.gui.comp.Component:setMouseListener(func) to add mouse listener
Modding Improved debug tools: added option to replace legacy vehicles with reworked ones
Modding Improved debug tools: added option to enable/disable and tweak terrain tesselation
Modding Improved debug tools: added option to enable/disable texture streaming
Modding Improved legacy handling: added old vehicle model resources as built in legacy vehicle mod
Modding Improved error output of crashes related to metadata of models
Model Editor Improved output: show info message when model editor settings couldn't be loaded
Fixed crash related to year overflow of game simulation time
Fixed crash related to replacement of missing town building scaffolding
Fixed crash related to duplicate edges in constructions
Fixed crash related to systems with integrated AMD GPU and dedicated Nvidia GPU
Fixed crash related to AMD GPU drivers while using OpenGL
Fixed vehicles not loading in all compartments if they unload items before switching to another cargo
Fixed vehicle horn not triggered in certain situations
Fixed planes reserving runway even though they can't reserve the path to the runway
Fixed station types not being updated on street modification
Fixed background blurring of windows on certain systems
Fixed trains at stations being compressed while tracks are modified
Fixed scale of Peterbilt 359, Cascadia and 40 ton truck
Fixed various minor issues with localizations
Fixed missing tooltip for overcrowded terminals
- - - > Fixed update of key assignment in cockpit camera <- - - - -
Fixed land use data layer showing wrong level for some buildings
Campaign Fixed crash when clicking multiple times on yellow markers
Campaign Fixed flickering cutscene shot in mission 1
Campaign Fixed various minor issues with mission scripts

[Vulmada]

if moving around was "all it did" - then I could do that before that update with the arrow keys / wsad... (shrug) oh well.... I thought the new camera would place us at the "drivers view" instead of "infront of the vehicle"

[RadiKyle]

Originally posted by Ostepop:

I read it on transportsfever2 .com 's wiki, release notes - version 35230 (March 09,2023)

- - - > Improved cockpit camera: hide hints after 5 seconds <- - - - - - - -
- - - > Fixed update of key assignment in cockpit camera <- - - - -

Yes these are the changes I mentioned. They're just showing the hotkeys on the screen, and then hiding them after 5 seconds to clean up the view. It's just UI tweaks, the camera itself is still the same.

The cam view mod I linked has driver views and many others.