Cars don't pass trucks and buses on the OPEN road

[Wolfsun]

I'm playing TF2 with an all no trains just cars and trucks rule. Started following them and noticed that cars following buses and trucks just won't pass them on the open road be it 2 lane paved all the way up to 4 lane paved and highway. (never bothered with bus routes before except in cities nor truck routes except to do short haul transfers between resource/factory routes).

Totally surprised about the no passing thing and for what it is worth the rather large amount of money you can pull down with long haul psgr bus routes.

Is there a way to get the cars to pass the slow poke buses and trucks?

[Tsubame ⭐]

Bus lanes.

[GordonDry]

There is no A.I. for traffic, just a simple ruleset of "the shortest possible path, even if creeping behind a slower truck" is used.

[Liquid Inc]

AI traffic picks a lane that leads the quickest to it's destination. That's literally "it".
It doesn't take into account road blocks, traffic lights, rail crossings etc..
Im not even sure it takes speed limits of the road into account....

It won't for example, pick the 4th lane on a road because it's empty and will shave 3 "Months" (in-game time) off the journey, it'll instead sit in traffic all that time behind 50 other vehicles and not move....


As to getting AI cars to pass your slow vehicles?

I would set the buses and trucks to use "waypoints", and set the waypoint to the unused lanes.

Or use a "bus lane", but that won't stop AI cars using it if there's no other route.

[GordonDry]

@Liquid Inc
Don't use the term "AI" or better "A.I." if it's not A.I. and just a simple and static subroutine of classic software.
If this mindset manifests into humankind's collective consciousness the term will be dumbed down for no good reason.
Well, okay, it already happened, people call a simple device with a classic CPU and a display "smart phone" which is ridicilous.

[Metacritical]

if you use bus lanes for your vehicles who cares what private vehicles are doing? it's your job to provide citizens with a route for them to use, so there is no point complaining that they do not overtake on roads, that is irrelevant. a private vehicle using the roads is one fewer person using your network, find out why they are not using your network, fix that issue and that vehicle won't exist anymore and you will make more money.

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by GordonDry:

- Mindless rambling-

If it's classified as AI Traffic by the game that is what i will call it, whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant.

Take your bait elsewhere, it is neither needed or wanted here.

[GordonDry]

@Liquid Inc, the old troll.
As you call that "mindless" you claim to be mindful which is a very selfish mindset of yours, so that point suddenly moves over to me. Pfft.
You know what, you have even been inside my ignore list for many months but sometimes, if in the mood, I read that bee yu ull s h i t and reply to it. Grasp that.
Which is not A.I. is not A.I., and never will be, no matter how anybody calls it. A man will always be a man, no matter how many propaganda is poured over us. Same s h i t.

[soldier6661111]

Doesn’t own the game or understand common game language. Just a troll trolling apparently and failing at appearing intelligent.

Originally posted by GordonDry:

@Liquid Inc, the old troll.
As you call that "mindless" you claim to be mindful which is a very selfish mindset of yours, so that point suddenly moves over to me. Pfft.
You know what, you have even been inside my ignore list for many months but sometimes, if in the mood, I read that bee yu ull s h i t and reply to it. Grasp that.
Which is not A.I. is not A.I., and never will be, no matter how anybody calls it. A man will always be a man, no matter how many propaganda is poured over us. Same s h i t.

[GordonDry]

@soldier6661111:
Another white knight keyboard warrior jumping from the bushes directly in front of the nose of somebody who got a dispute with somebody else.
Who has nothing to do with it.
Do you have colored hair and a nose ring btw?

[Wolfsun]

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

Bus lanes.

I built a 4 lane country paved road between 2 major cities with buslane and the bus never went into the buslane. Didn't work. Followed a car stuck behind the bus which was in the inner lane and it never tried to pass.

[Bauer33333]

cars decide what lanes to choose where at the start of their journey. They take delays into account, but because it all needs to be decided when leaving the house there is no way for them to pass someone because it is impossible to predict when there will be someone slower in front
Bus lanes should work, an a four lane road the bus should move over at latest at the next node, not sure what you did wrong
you can force busses into specific lanes with waypoints, too

[Wolfsun]

Originally posted by Baauer33333:

you can force busses into specific lanes with waypoints, too

Really - I had no idea that could be done. I know how to do it on a train route but how would one do it on a road route?

[wellover-50]

Originally posted by Wolfsun:

Originally posted by Baauer33333:

you can force busses into specific lanes with waypoints, too

Really - I had no idea that could be done. I know how to do it on a train route but how would one do it on a road route?

right click on the way point and select the lane number you wish you vehicles to use

[Wolfsun]

Originally posted by wellover-50:

Originally posted by Wolfsun:

Really - I had no idea that could be done. I know how to do it on a train route but how would one do it on a road route?

right click on the way point and select the lane number you wish you vehicles to use

Thanks. I am definitely going to give that a try.

[Marc Collins]

How is it possible this silly situation is still not resolved after so many game updates? And it's not just the AI. The player's own road vehicles will not pass slower ones even when using a mullti-lane road. The game is fundamentally dysfunctional if you use vehicles with differing maximum speeds. One slow truck or bus and there is a parade of faster vehicles behind it, even with an empty lane right beside. There is so much attention to detail and many useful updates since the game's launch. How is this still broken?