My fuel refinery can't ship goods...

[Ronaldo7926]

Created a Line from fuel refinery, line and got truck assigned it to the line. I'm not sure
is it about the fact that I have trains that ship oil to this industry. I'm trying to ship fuel to a city but there's nothing coming out of the fuel refinery, it's empty. So, my truck just park there for few minutes and leave with nothing.

[bossbill1]

For fuel you need a line from Crude oil - oil refinery - fuel refinery. then a line from fuel refinery to town. Make sure you have all this in place with the correct wagons on the trains, and the correct trucks to deliver the refined fuel. Normally when a line is not producing its normally down to the wrong truck or wagon being added.

Edit...Also click on your loading bay at the fuel refinery and make sure it highlights it in white, if it does not then it is not connected to the refinary and will need to be moved closer.

[larry_roberts]

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[Ronaldo7926]

Originally posted by bossbill1:

For fuel you need a line from Crude oil - oil refinery - fuel refinery. then a line from fuel refinery to town. Make sure you have all this in place with the correct wagons on the trains, and the correct trucks to deliver the refined fuel. Normally when a line is not producing its normally down to the wrong truck or wagon being added.

Edit...Also click on your loading bay at the fuel refinery and make sure it highlights it in white, if it does not then it is not connected to the refinary and will need to be moved closer.

I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I have all the thing you said the Crude oil - oil refinery - fuel refinery. And yes It's highlighted in white. Also the oil has been produced but it doesn't appear on the truck station, this problem always happen to me when I use trains and truck in a industry. Either the train is not working or the truck is not working.

[Doomed]

If the truck stop is linked to the refinery then it has to either be the wrong truck loading fuel or its destination doesn't accept fuel.

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by zmort:

Created a Line from fuel refinery, line and got truck assigned it to the line. I'm not sure
is it about the fact that I have trains that ship oil to this industry. I'm trying to ship fuel to a city but there's nothing coming out of the fuel refinery, it's empty. So, my truck just park there for few minutes and leave with nothing.

If the Fuel refinery isn't giving out Fuel there's a few reasons:

A) no destination for the fuel to go to. - Check your city truck stop is actually covering the buildings that require fuel. If they're not white, they're not connected as you know

B) The Route is set wrong. What i mean by this is, Check your load and unload settings. You may have inadvertently set the wrong load instead of fuel, breaking the route. Make sure that fuel is set to load at the refinery, and unload at the city.
It's an easy thing to miss, and i've done it myself

C) The truck can't carry fuel. Buy one that can.

D) the fuel refinery isn't getting enough Oil to produce anything. Supplying it with the occasional truck carrying 10 Oil probably won't give anything out, as production always takes a few points before the industry starts producing goods (in this case, fuel).

Originally posted by zmort:

Also the oil has been produced but it doesn't appear on the truck station, this problem always happen to me when I use trains and truck in a industry. Either the train is not working or the truck is not working.

Wait, are you trying to use both road and rail to the same destination? If that's the case, that's how TF2 works, it'll only use one OR the other, even if the train station is heavily overloaded.
If that is the case, you'll have to choose road or rail and then adjust the route for the demand.

If the train is supplying Oil to the industry, and Fuel by road to a town, then there should be no issues with that setup at all, leading back to my points above to check the road route.

[Ronaldo7926]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

Originally posted by zmort:

Created a Line from fuel refinery, line and got truck assigned it to the line. I'm not sure
is it about the fact that I have trains that ship oil to this industry. I'm trying to ship fuel to a city but there's nothing coming out of the fuel refinery, it's empty. So, my truck just park there for few minutes and leave with nothing.

If the Fuel refinery isn't giving out Fuel there's a few reasons:

A) no destination for the fuel to go to. - Check your city truck stop is actually covering the buildings that require fuel. If they're not white, they're not connected as you know

B) The Route is set wrong. What i mean by this is, Check your load and unload settings. You may have inadvertently set the wrong load instead of fuel, breaking the route. Make sure that fuel is set to load at the refinery, and unload at the city.
It's an easy thing to miss, and i've done it myself

C) The truck can't carry fuel. Buy one that can.

D) the fuel refinery isn't getting enough Oil to produce anything. Supplying it with the occasional truck carrying 10 Oil probably won't give anything out, as production always takes a few points before the industry starts producing goods (in this case, fuel).

Originally posted by zmort:

Also the oil has been produced but it doesn't appear on the truck station, this problem always happen to me when I use trains and truck in a industry. Either the train is not working or the truck is not working.

Wait, are you trying to use both road and rail to the same destination? If that's the case, that's how TF2 works, it'll only use one OR the other, even if the train station is heavily overloaded.
If that is the case, you'll have to choose road or rail and then adjust the route for the demand.

If the train is supplying Oil to the industry, and Fuel by road to a town, then there should be no issues with that setup at all, leading back to my points above to check the road route.

I will answer all the reasons you gave:

A) Checked, it's covered the whole city.

B) I got the default settings on so I tried changed it but it still didn't work.

C) Checked, the truck can carry all cargo.

D) In the production bar it said that 22/100 and I think it's mean that there are 22 oil that have been produced right? But, the production tab said 0/100. Not sure if it related.

And I'm doing a train from the Oil refinery to Fuel refinery and to the city (which is the line that won't work). I'm not sure is this what you mean, let me know.

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by zmort:

I will answer all the reasons you gave:

A) Checked, it's covered the whole city.

B) I got the default settings on so I tried changed it but it still didn't work.

C) Checked, the truck can carry all cargo.

D) In the production bar it said that 22/100 and I think it's mean that there are 22 oil that have been produced right? But, the production tab said 0/100. Not sure if it related.

And I'm doing a train from the Oil refinery to Fuel refinery and to the city (which is the line that won't work). I'm not sure is this what you mean, let me know.

A) The whole city? I assume the truck route is using multiple stops in the city? As long as it covers the building's wanting fuel, it will work that way.

B) Default should work, it'll just allow other goods to use the trucks as well. I normally set my routes so only the product i want gets loaded and unloaded. It'll work just fine on default.

C) Good, sometimes it's just a simple thing like this

D) Should be 3 bars in the industry window. Production, Shipping and Transport. In that order from top to bottom.

Production is how much the industry makes, yes, but if it says 22/100, it's not working much at all.

"Production" should be 100/100. Any less and it's a fault with the route leading to the industry (so the route between Oil refinery, and fuel refinery.)
It's running out of Oil and dropping production before the next delivery of Oil arrives.

"Shipping" is what your Fuel routes will get when the industry is producing fuel. If production isn't at 100, this will drop to 0 until more Oil is delivered, but it won't jump back up, it'll climb gradually.

"Transport" is related to the Fuel, so that will increase when the trucks start delivering to the city.

So, the issue (that i can tell from what's written here) lies with your Oil refinery - Fuel refinery route. but.. The train also carries fuel to the city? Seems like the whole thing is a mess

I would make a new route, and a new train to carry Crude Oil from the wells to the Oil refinery.
Then make a new route with another train to carry Oil from the Oil refinery, to the Fuel refinery.
Then have trucks from the Fuel refinery, to the city.

That way, each industry has it's own line, and everything should work as expected.

[Ronaldo7926]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

Originally posted by zmort:

I will answer all the reasons you gave:

A) Checked, it's covered the whole city.

B) I got the default settings on so I tried changed it but it still didn't work.

C) Checked, the truck can carry all cargo.

D) In the production bar it said that 22/100 and I think it's mean that there are 22 oil that have been produced right? But, the production tab said 0/100. Not sure if it related.

And I'm doing a train from the Oil refinery to Fuel refinery and to the city (which is the line that won't work). I'm not sure is this what you mean, let me know.

A) The whole city? I assume the truck route is using multiple stops in the city? As long as it covers the building's wanting fuel, it will work that way.

B) Default should work, it'll just allow other goods to use the trucks as well. I normally set my routes so only the product i want gets loaded and unloaded. It'll work just fine on default.

C) Good, sometimes it's just a simple thing like this

D) Should be 3 bars in the industry window. Production, Shipping and Transport. In that order from top to bottom.

Production is how much the industry makes, yes, but if it says 22/100, it's not working much at all.

"Production" should be 100/100. Any less and it's a fault with the route leading to the industry (so the route between Oil refinery, and fuel refinery.)
It's running out of Oil and dropping production before the next delivery of Oil arrives.

"Shipping" is what your Fuel routes will get when the industry is producing fuel. If production isn't at 100, this will drop to 0 until more Oil is delivered, but it won't jump back up, it'll climb gradually.

"Transport" is related to the Fuel, so that will increase when the trucks start delivering to the city.

So, the issue (that i can tell from what's written here) lies with your Oil refinery - Fuel refinery route. but.. The train also carries fuel to the city? Seems like the whole thing is a mess

I would make a new route, and a new train to carry Crude Oil from the wells to the Oil refinery.
Then make a new route with another train to carry Oil from the Oil refinery, to the Fuel refinery.
Then have trucks from the Fuel refinery, to the city.

That way, each industry has it's own line, and everything should work as expected.

Sorry for the confusion, so there’s 3 lines first is from wells to the oil refinery (truck) second is from the Oil refinance to Fuel refinery (train) third is from Fuel refinery to the city (truck). Should I also use train for the wells to oil refinery too? And also If i wait until the production bar is 100/100 and then I’ll start the third line, will that work? And on reason “A” I misspelled, by whole city I mean buildings that need fuel. I apologize again for my confusing reply.

[Autocoach]

No the fuel bit is the problem. Vehicles should we running not wait till full infinite and no filters should be set. A truck loading stop that is not the roadside one should be in catchment of the fuel refinery and at the town end buildings that need fuel should be highlighted when you click on the truck stop

[Vimpster]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

"Production" should be 100/100. Any less and it's a fault with the route leading to the industry (so the route between Oil refinery, and fuel refinery.)
It's running out of Oil and dropping production before the next delivery of Oil arrives.

"Shipping" is what your Fuel routes will get when the industry is producing fuel. If production isn't at 100, this will drop to 0 until more Oil is delivered, but it won't jump back up, it'll climb gradually.

Good help here, except for this part. Production does not need to be 100/100. And shipping can occur straight away no matter what the production is at so long as it is above 1. Because there is a slight delay in demand being registered the first item produced never gets shipped. But every product produced after the first can potentially be shipped if the demand is registered.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2869516939

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by Vimpster:

Good help here, except for this part. Production does not need to be 100/100. And shipping can occur straight away no matter what the production is at so long as it is above 0. However there is a bug that causes the very first item produced to not be shipped. But every product produced after the very first can potentially be shipped if the demand is registered.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2869516939

True, but generally, if it's under 100 there's something going wrong on a route, and if it is dropping below 100 it won't do any routes or industries following it any good either

But yes, it's doesn't -need- to be 100, but it should be stable

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by zmort:

Should I also use train for the wells to oil refinery too?

Possibly.

But if the oil refinery is producing at full capacity with the trucks, then the trucks are fine.

I use trains on such a route as the requirements of the Oil Refinery tend to go beyond what trucks can do, but you don't -need- to use trains.

Originally posted by zmort:

And also If i wait until the production bar is 100/100 and then I’ll start the third line, will that work?

that will work just fine. If it doesn't ship anything, then you'll know that the Fuel route isn't working.
As Vimpster said above, it should ship straight away as soon as any Oil arrives, but i've found it usually gets to around 10 or 20 in production before it'll start shipping.

[bossbill1]

To Zmort...
In one of your posts you put.......
C) Checked, the truck can carry all cargo.
Is this a truck that when you buy it it says all cargo or is it a tanker truck ?......
It needs to be a tanker truck only, the ones that say all cargo do not transport liquids.

[lemming3k]

Originally posted by bossbill1:

To Zmort...
In one of your posts you put.......
C) Checked, the truck can carry all cargo.
Is this a truck that when you buy it it says all cargo or is it a tanker truck ?......
It needs to be a tanker truck only, the ones that say all cargo do not transport liquids.

Sorry but that isn't correct. If it says 'All cargo' then this includes liquids in the case of both trucks and ships. Early game doesn't have tankers at all. However most of the newer vehicles don't say 'all cargo' they just picture almost all goods except liquids so it could be easy to mistake.

[Ronaldo7926]

Bossbill1 and lemming3k I use the default truck from the 1850 and I also use the same type of truck that I use in the line from well to refinery. So that should work perfectly, or not.

I think I will try to wait until the production tab to be 100/100.

I’ll be updating.