Flatten/Smooth tool in dry biome creates water?

[MightyTikiGod]

Exactly that.. I tried smoothing out some land around some track that passed under another set of track and water started to appear. If I keep smoothing it out it creates a false lake texture over my track.

[Stealthy]

It does that on all biomes due to poor implementation of the tool / ground mapping. It only sees "water at this level" and doesn't consider if that area is actually connected to a body of water or not.

[Gorby]

Yeah but the "water at this level" issue would only happen if he was lowering terrain, not smoothing it. I've never seen water appear from smoothing terrain.

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by Gorby:

Yeah but the "water at this level" issue would only happen if he was lowering terrain, not smoothing it. I've never seen water appear from smoothing terrain.

It does happen when the area you are smoothing is under the waterline.

[Gorby]

But if it's under the water line then there would already be water there, no? Can you post a screenshot SchitzenGiggles?

[Vimpster]

You can make track/road go below the waterline when you build it. No water will show. But if you attempt to smooth the land in that area it will often trigger the water texture to show up. I've seen that many times. However using the raise and lower terrain tool on the very edges of the railway I have always been able to get rid of the water again. When I first encountered the problem I thought I had no choice but to rebuild the railway in order to fix it but that isn't necessary.

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by Gorby:

But if it's under the water line then there would already be water there, no? Can you post a screenshot SchitzenGiggles?

No, there wouldn't be. See, map has a base level for water. Let's call it 0. When you dig under that on solid ground no water will emerge. Just like you dig a hole in your backyard, it doesn't fill with water. However, now the smoothing gun has a bug which applies water texture at this said level regardless of water being present or not, because it is programmed in such way. "if ground level lower than 0 then water" kind a thing. Which it shouldn't do, unless the area is actually in contact with a body of water. Raise and lower tools do work correctly.

[Vimpster]

Originally posted by Stealthy:

Raise and lower tools do work correctly.

Not in my experience. Lowering the ground below 0 always creates water for me. The only time I can go below 0 without water is if it is a road or railway gouging into the ground.

I would come across this a lot on an island map because the land is only a short distance above the water level. So when I make bridges over rail or roads and stuff I dig down till the water appears and then raise it one meter in order to go as low as possible for triggering bridge constructions.

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by Vimpster:

Originally posted by Stealthy:

Raise and lower tools do work correctly.

Not in my experience. Lowering the ground below 0 always creates water for me. The only time I can go below 0 without water is if it is a road or railway gouging into the ground.

I would come across this a lot on an island map because the land is only a short distance above the water level. So when I make bridges over rail or roads and stuff I dig down till the water appears and then raise it one meter in order to go as low as possible for triggering bridge constructions.

Possible. I'm only basing it to youtube videos and very short experience with game before refunding it.

[Gorby]

Originally posted by Vimpster:

Originally posted by Stealthy:

Raise and lower tools do work correctly.

Not in my experience. Lowering the ground below 0 always creates water for me. The only time I can go below 0 without water is if it is a road or railway gouging into the ground.

I would come across this a lot on an island map because the land is only a short distance above the water level. So when I make bridges over rail or roads and stuff I dig down till the water appears and then raise it one meter in order to go as low as possible for triggering bridge constructions.

That's my experience as well, never realized building road/rail was an exception though. In hindsight I think I can recall when that's happened and I could see the beach terrain instead of grass but I didn't do any other terrain modification there.

[MightyTikiGod]

When I encountered the bug I exited the game without saving and reloaded my previous save game to try and fix it. Since then I have been trying to replicate what happened, but my track ends up tunneling nicely rather than creating the massive gorge it did initially.

I do have a screenshot showing where the problem might be coming from. It appears that once you go below the map 'water table' you're probably going to encounter this issue.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198010789453/home

[Vimpster]

It is 100% reproducible on any map type. I would be surprised if the devs weren't already aware of the issue. I wouldn't expect them to fix it though as it is already avoidable and fixable as it is.

[larry_roberts]

Originally posted by SchitzenGiggles:

When I encountered the bug I exited the game without saving and reloaded my previous save game to try and fix it. Since then I have been trying to replicate what happened, but my track ends up tunneling nicely rather than creating the massive gorge it did initially.

I do have a screenshot showing where the problem might be coming from. It appears that once you go below the map 'water table' you're probably going to encounter this issue.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198010789453/home

That's not a Screenshot!.

[Vimpster]

Here is a picture of the sort of thing I have been talking about and I assume the OP has also been talking about.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2019965024
Just a little bit of the raising terrain tool will get rid of it.

[❆🎄Douglas 🎁 🎂]

Nothing can be done for that? Devs didn`t say anything about fixing it? Its so annoying. Basically I cant use the smooth tool at all. Trying to fix some terrain issues and it creates a lot more. In TpF1 was working perfectly.

[Gorby]

Originally posted by ❆🎄Douglas 🎁 🎂:

Nothing can be done for that?

Originally posted by Vimpster:

Just a little bit of the raising terrain tool will get rid of it.