Langrisser I & II

Langrisser I & II

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Ninja Jan 19, 2021 @ 1:45am
Remake vs Old Titles
This remake is too easy in comparison to the old titles. volkoff starts at level 20 ... ridiculous! From the start there is too much money and the enemies have too low stats. Also the old AI is better than the remake one. NG + doesn't improve the situation much. This game would need a reprogrammed hardcore mode from scratch. It's a shame. Older titles are superior in everything, except in graphics.
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Tyr Feb 26, 2021 @ 3:55am 
Don't use the demo and other bonus', don't replay levels etc and the game is challenging thought still far from difficult.
I noticed that units dont suffer as much against their weak units, like the original. Kind of takes the steam out of planning to be honest.
Nydelin May 2, 2021 @ 7:37pm 
It's ridiculously, especially Langrisser 1. They took a classic, hacked it up, added powerful gear, and just let you breeze through it.
Halcyform May 3, 2021 @ 9:46pm 
Still a good game. I actually still prefer the look and mechanics of the original but I'm seriously digging the UI. They did a pretty good job with that. As far as difficulty, it feels about the same as the original, imo.

As far as the in game store you can buy equipment/augments from, no one is forcing you to use it. Just don't use it if you feel it makes the game too easy. I don't understand the logic involved in complaining about something you can opt out of.

Overall, I'm incredibly grateful to see these again.

Only game left, in this genre, that I want to see re-released is Dragon Force (Sega Saturn).
P.Rate| Celia May 4, 2021 @ 11:40am 
Apart from endagme fights the game is truly too easy, especially when you compare it to Langrisser Mobile.
Tyr May 4, 2021 @ 11:57am 
The only fight that was too easy was with the blobs as even normal weapons could heavily damage them, despite what the plot implies.
Ogami May 4, 2021 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by Tyr:
The only fight that was too easy was with the blobs as even normal weapons could heavily damage them, despite what the plot implies.

That fight was super hard on Mega Drive/Genesis. You could barely hurt them at all with standard troops there and they hit hard too.
Last edited by Ogami; May 4, 2021 @ 5:27pm
Tyr May 5, 2021 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by Ogami:
Originally posted by Tyr:
The only fight that was too easy was with the blobs as even normal weapons could heavily damage them, despite what the plot implies.

That fight was super hard on Mega Drive/Genesis. You could barely hurt them at all with standard troops there and they hit hard too.

I was definitely disappointed with that fight in the remake.
Ogami May 7, 2021 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by Tyr:

I was definitely disappointed with that fight in the remake.
it was badly made.
They did go " oh no! we have to keep them off till reinforcements arrive!"
And i nearly killed them all before they even showed up.
Halcyform May 7, 2021 @ 3:51am 
The early game slime scenario was easy in the original as well so this isn't a good barometer for the overall state of the game.

Give guardsmen to any commander who had access to them and then save your cash by assigning no mercenaries to commanders who didn't. If playing the scenario for the first time, I'm pretty sure I remember that Mina didn't have access to any other mercenaries, so you end up quickly finding out just how effective they are against the slimes. Strategically suicide your non-effective units against the slimes to save cash.

You didn't really even need to move much. Sort out your formation and wait for slimes to come to you. Lure them in and watch them suicide themselves on your guardsmen. Use lone commanders to finish off weakened units for easy experience. In both versions, you can use this scenario to gain easy commander levels/class ups if you wanted to.
Mr Fantastic May 10, 2021 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by CPU 1:
This remake is too easy in comparison to the old titles. volkoff starts at level 20 ... ridiculous! From the start there is too much money and the enemies have too low stats. Also the old AI is better than the remake one. NG + doesn't improve the situation much. This game would need a reprogrammed hardcore mode from scratch. It's a shame. Older titles are superior in everything, except in graphics.

Go play the old titles then, difficulty is only one among many considerations. The old titles haven't aged well at all. The only thing they have to offer is the sick soundtrack from 1.

You can make your own difficulty instead of whining about it. No one forces you to repeat levels or use gear. You can also take a single upgrade path. No one is stopping you from making the game more challenging.



Originally posted by Failure ★:
Apart from endagme fights the game is truly too easy, especially when you compare it to Langrisser Mobile.

You should never compare a mobile game with a real game, mobile games are made for you to spend tons of money in them, if you dump a lot of money into it, the mobile version is the easiest of them all.



Originally posted by Tyr:
The only fight that was too easy was with the blobs as even normal weapons could heavily damage them, despite what the plot implies.

Have you even played the original? Slimes are weak against blunt weapons and fire, and you had plenty of those, you just needed to use them. All fights are easy if you know what you have to do.
Last edited by Mr Fantastic; May 10, 2021 @ 4:46am
Halcyform May 10, 2021 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:
The old titles haven't aged well at all.

I haven't played much of the original subsequent titles, but I think Warsong aged pretty well, actually.

Warsong is still just as fun to play, and look at, as it was when I played it on my Sega Genesis system.
Ninja Apr 22, 2023 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:
Go play the old titles then, difficulty is only one among many considerations. The old titles haven't aged well at all. The only thing they have to offer is the sick soundtrack from 1.

You can make your own difficulty instead of whining about it. No one forces you to repeat levels or use gear. You can also take a single upgrade path. No one is stopping you from making the game more challenging.

Ah well if that's why I also play easier it is difficult if played with one hand ...
Needless to scramble, they made a bad port in terms of balance and difficulty.
Red Bat May 21, 2023 @ 9:35pm 
I'm actually just starting this game. Is it actually that much easier or are people just exaggerating and not remembering how easy Langrisser used to be? I played the second game a while back on an emulator and it was legitimately one of the easiest games I ever played, so I'm not really expecting any serious difficulty to begin with, especially when one of the first options I'm being given at the start is whether I want extra gear.

One thing to keep in mind is even if the game is easy, this genre of game is actually kind of hard for some people. So it's entirely possible the game is super easy for you while remaining at a decent difficulty for other players. Especially since most players probably aren't looking up guides on the best way to answer opening questions or the best classes for each character.
Ninja May 22, 2023 @ 3:35am 
Just compare the initial stats and the basic equipment with which you start the party to understand how much easier this remake is compared to the original game.
It's the classic remake with redone graphics and that's it. What they had to improve was the combat system and the general balance, in addition to the AI. From this point of view they have not changed anything, on the contrary they have worsened the situation, and this is a fact.
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