Steam Workshop Integration?

[FinnyFin-TV]

Hello.

I'm new to the game and immediately fell in love with the game. There are so many good songs in the game, but I feel like having easy to access user created content would be great to add more to the game. Is there plans for Steam workshop in the future?

Thanks,
^Finny

[StaticR]

Workshop isn't really possible for this type of game because of how how reliant all the user content would be on copyrighted works. Custom charts and songs would need to be either heavily moderated to remove unauthorized use of copyrighted content which would be an absolute nightmare and also suck, or exclude that entirely which would also suck and kinda go against the largest appeal for modding as well.

Workshop integration would be an absolute mess with a really disappointing result and there isn't really a way around that.

[alex]

Originally posted by StaticR:

Workshop isn't really possible for this type of game because of how how reliant all the user content would be on copyrighted works. Custom charts and songs would need to be either heavily moderated to remove unauthorized use of copyrighted content which would be an absolute nightmare and also suck, or exclude that entirely which would also suck and kinda go against the largest appeal for modding as well.

Workshop integration would be an absolute mess with a really disappointing result and there isn't really a way around that.

What??? Most other games have heavy use of copyrighted content in their workshops, I believe since they are modded and not just the original song, but a version of it modded for a game it might fall under fair use? Either way everything you just said made no sense.

[Static]

There is a mod online for this game which let u use custom songs.

[StaticR]

Originally posted by stylzb:

Originally posted by StaticR:

Workshop isn't really possible for this type of game because of how how reliant all the user content would be on copyrighted works. Custom charts and songs would need to be either heavily moderated to remove unauthorized use of copyrighted content which would be an absolute nightmare and also suck, or exclude that entirely which would also suck and kinda go against the largest appeal for modding as well.

Workshop integration would be an absolute mess with a really disappointing result and there isn't really a way around that.

What??? Most other games have heavy use of copyrighted content in their workshops, I believe since they are modded and not just the original song, but a version of it modded for a game it might fall under fair use? Either way everything you just said made no sense.

Yeah but other games have way more diverse types of content that do not entirely rely on copyrighted works. There's at least an argument that this is not the intent of mod support. Trombone Champ is very different in that regard. The ability to play copyrighted music is the primary appeal of mods and that's not a standpoint that can be officially supported.

Also the music industry is known to be pretty fierce concerning IP and copyright and the devs openly endorsing and supporting violations would get them on their radar real quick.

And no, it's not fair use. Fair use only really applies to commentary (aka reporting on it or journalism), parody and education (not quite sure about that), and custom music does not fall under any of that.

[molya/lolya | MAT squad]

Originally posted by StaticR:

And no, it's not fair use. Fair use only really applies to commentary (aka reporting on it or journalism), parody and education (not quite sure about that), and custom music does not fall under any of that.

Parody. You said it yourself. There are many of custom charts available online that are literally parodies even with background 3D animations made from scratch and some additional alterations in the audio track. It is absolutely OKAY for this game to have workshop. Also, the only person getting "on radar" is the creator of a particular mod in the workshop if they doesn't have a permission to use that particular song or hasn't made enough alterations to consider it a fair use.

[Mr. Holy Wow]

Workshop is still planned, but yep, as the users above said, the types of songs that will be admitted would be very limited... most likely, only original tracks and original renditions of public domain tracks.

We should also note that we're already working on this stuff! The update that will allow custom tracks to work natively is a pretty big one, and it will take lots of testing to make sure it doesn't break the game for everyone.

[SSJ2_Snake]

Seems like the thing to do would have the Workshop have mostly just the modloader all set up and good to go for you, and just have everyone know about the third party place to get the tracks.

[Aimshows]

Originally posted by alex:

Originally posted by StaticR:

Workshop isn't really possible for this type of game because of how how reliant all the user content would be on copyrighted works. Custom charts and songs would need to be either heavily moderated to remove unauthorized use of copyrighted content which would be an absolute nightmare and also suck, or exclude that entirely which would also suck and kinda go against the largest appeal for modding as well.

Workshop integration would be an absolute mess with a really disappointing result and there isn't really a way around that.

What??? Most other games have heavy use of copyrighted content in their workshops, I believe since they are modded and not just the original song, but a version of it modded for a game it might fall under fair use? Either way everything you just said made no sense.

yeah take games like L4D2 and GMOD